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‘US will no longer protect Europe’: Pan-EU movement Volt pushes for EU army

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      The idea that the US was a protector of Europe is false and must go.

      The US presence - there 100000 troops under direct command - , are here to defend, and expand, their ideological and economic interests .

      Not for our protection.

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        On this regards, I think that the french doctrine since De Gaulle is right. US never protected Europe but their own interest (in Europe) (and to be fair, you could say the same about any country).

        And indeed, I've been hearing all my life about the need for an European army, and nothing as really moved, and it's a pitty.

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          On this regards, I think that the french doctrine since De Gaulle is right. US never protected Europe but their own interest (in Europe) (and to be fair, you could say the same about any country).

          And indeed, I've been hearing all my life about the need for an European army, and nothing as really moved, and it's a pitty.

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          and nothing as really moved

          That is not quite correct as the dutch forces are fully integrated into the german Bundeswehr's command structure.

          Yes, it's not a whole lot but it shows some progress around the corner.

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            No country has more overseas bases than the USA. They're there to hold everyone hostage. Can't wait for America to pull out and restore everyone's freedom.

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              At least German VOLT and their candidate this election were a huge joke

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                and nothing as really moved

                That is not quite correct as the dutch forces are fully integrated into the german Bundeswehr's command structure.

                Yes, it's not a whole lot but it shows some progress around the corner.

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                Yes, it’s not a whole lot

                It IS a whole lot and a very strong sign of trust that had to be earned.

                The military is one of the most intimate things of a nation and what happened here is a very good sign that hopefully sets an example for others.

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                  Yes, it’s not a whole lot

                  It IS a whole lot and a very strong sign of trust that had to be earned.

                  The military is one of the most intimate things of a nation and what happened here is a very good sign that hopefully sets an example for others.

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                  I meant it more in the context of how far we still have to go. There are more and growing cooperative projects, but it is still a long road to an EU army.

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                    and nothing as really moved

                    That is not quite correct as the dutch forces are fully integrated into the german Bundeswehr's command structure.

                    Yes, it's not a whole lot but it shows some progress around the corner.

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                    Yes their land forces, their Navy has a shared command with the Belgian Navy.

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                      No country has more overseas bases than the USA. They're there to hold everyone hostage. Can't wait for America to pull out and restore everyone's freedom.

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                      restore everyone's freedom.

                      Unless, after they've retreated, you are invaded by a more hostile country. Be careful what you wish for.

                      Most worldpowers do the same as USA if they can, and most are probably much worse.

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