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This happened one day in the window well outside my office. I got banned from r/pics for posting it.

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  • M [email protected]

    I can see why, it looks AI as hell...

    I think it looks nice. AI or not.

    I'd have to stare at it for longer than I have to decide if it's AI. So until I can do that, I'm going to trust the OP until I can verify their claims.

    Edit: definitely not AI. Nice shot OP.

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    I think part of it is the imperfections that make it look a bit more like nonsensical ai hallucinations

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      I get these kind of reactions on Lemmy all the time. I say something that isn't the exact party line, people assume I'm their worst enemy even though our disagreement is very minor in the broad scheme.

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      There's always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there's been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn't jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It's very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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      • R [email protected]

        I took it as them sharing the hardware specs for other curious photographers, but you might be on to something.

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        Sharing hardware specs doesn't need "because it was all I had" tho.

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          I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

          Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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          conus pineae divinae

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          • J [email protected]

            It's the same shit on lemmy

            I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

            Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it's because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

            The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

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            #84

            I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.

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            • M [email protected]

              I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

              Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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              #85

              r/pics is a massive joke anyways. Screw that sub!

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              • M [email protected]

                I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

                Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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                #86

                Since the light is hitting things just right, probably put some random objects or action figures in there to see if people notice. Every day is a new story! Cool picture by the way.

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                • M [email protected]

                  I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

                  Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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                  #87

                  Misleading thumbnail. Looks kinda like a lit joint.

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                    I think part of it is the imperfections that make it look a bit more like nonsensical ai hallucinations

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                    It's not AI.

                    There's one big tell that I don't think AI is advanced enough to replicate.

                    Op took this picture though a window that had multiple panes of glass. So there's an echo of the image from the secondary reflections between the panes of glass.

                    I also can't spot and of the debris in the shot blending into itself. Everything seems to be complete objects.

                    But that reflection? I've never seen AI do anything like that.

                    In case anyone doesn't quite see what's going on here, the image is taken from inside (lights seem to be off from where the camera is), through thermal glass into a concrete window space, which is common for places that have basements so the window can serve as an emergency exit (even if you need to break it to get out)...

                    Looks like there's some kind of evergreen tree not far from where the window is, given the debris in the photo.

                    Great shot OP.

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                      Since the light is hitting things just right, probably put some random objects or action figures in there to see if people notice. Every day is a new story! Cool picture by the way.

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                      the light is hitting things just right

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                      • M [email protected]

                        It’s not HDR. It’s a single shot, slightly underexposed so we don’t lose the highlight detail. The rest of the work could have been done in a physical darkroom. But thank you.

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                        I think it's just that the iPhone processing gives it a certain look that people associate with ai for possibly incorrect reasons.

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                        • L [email protected]

                          "Obviously" has been a conclusive reason to condemn things since social media began. So of course "obviously AI" falls under that impeccable standard.

                          Also just curious, is taking photos with an iPhone something people apologize for now? I don't keep up with all the latest acceptibility rules.

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                          It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

                          Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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                            Frankie MacDonald?

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                            I think he's that Canadian dude on the coast and he's super zealous.

                            I remember a huge like 20,000+ vote thread where people were just outright mocking him to his face, knowing that he's not aware he's being mocked.

                            I stood up to shame people and I got the shit beat out of me then banned.

                            Yeah it's all fine for thousands of people to mock a person with an intellectual disability, that's totally fine /s

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                            • M [email protected]

                              It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

                              Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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                              Very interesting, thanks for the explanation. To me it's kind of pathetic that people feel such a compulsion to be cops instead of just enjoying a nice image.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

                                I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

                                P.S. This photo is beautiful and I’m happy you had a mind to capture it and share it. Thank you.

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                                It's the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It's like, no, I'm literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class..

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  It's not AI.

                                  There's one big tell that I don't think AI is advanced enough to replicate.

                                  Op took this picture though a window that had multiple panes of glass. So there's an echo of the image from the secondary reflections between the panes of glass.

                                  I also can't spot and of the debris in the shot blending into itself. Everything seems to be complete objects.

                                  But that reflection? I've never seen AI do anything like that.

                                  In case anyone doesn't quite see what's going on here, the image is taken from inside (lights seem to be off from where the camera is), through thermal glass into a concrete window space, which is common for places that have basements so the window can serve as an emergency exit (even if you need to break it to get out)...

                                  Looks like there's some kind of evergreen tree not far from where the window is, given the debris in the photo.

                                  Great shot OP.

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                                  Yeah that's what I mean, initially it looks like there's a bunch of details that make no sense but it's all reflections

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                                    There's always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there's been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn't jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It's very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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                                    This really fits my two hot takes about how we need to fix the left:

                                    • (1) end purity tests: an imperfect ally is still an ally.
                                    • (2) we need to appeal to centrists more; ± straight cis white men feel alienated when we talk about privilege as though it's a bad thing. We could talk about privilege as though it's a great thing that you should be proud of instead. Then we'd have privileged allies, which would be really helpful.
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                                      This really fits my two hot takes about how we need to fix the left:

                                      • (1) end purity tests: an imperfect ally is still an ally.
                                      • (2) we need to appeal to centrists more; ± straight cis white men feel alienated when we talk about privilege as though it's a bad thing. We could talk about privilege as though it's a great thing that you should be proud of instead. Then we'd have privileged allies, which would be really helpful.
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                                      I think item 1 would be enough to vastly improve the left's appeal to centrists, many of whom are just liberals other liberals call centrist for not being liberal enough. Perfection is the enemy of progress.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

                                        Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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                                        What an absurd line of reasoning from that bunch.

                                        "Obviously" you should have just posted the raw sensor data and let the viewers figure it out themselves. Sheesh.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

                                          Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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                                          The default subs are controlled by people involved with karma farming. Some of them are so bad that the mods will ban anyone with a high number of upvotes to prevent them from competing with the bots.

                                          Funny enough, I bet the same mods will let a bot report your pic in a few months.

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