I have finally gotten rid of Windows
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️ You just started a war. 
KDE > Gnome. 🤭I can't get excited about the Gnome interface. It somehow works in such an unfamiliar way. What is the advantage supposed to be?
I respect GNOME for it's simplicity, but prefer KDE for the chaos.
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So anyway, any beginner tips?
I did something similar a few months ago! But honestly it took me forever to pick between GNOME and KDE. Ended up going to KDE for certain things I wanted to customise.
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So anyway, any beginner tips?
Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
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I totally agree - distro hoppers who complain about the "nightmare" of finding the right distro are living in a hell of their own making.
They like it but haven't come out of the closet
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️ You just started a war. KDE > Gnome. 🤭
I can't get excited about the Gnome interface. It somehow works in such an unfamiliar way. What is the advantage supposed to be?
Completely agree. I find GNOME just annoying, ugly, and in some places inconsistent.
KDE/i3/Sway 4evarr!
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Runs pretty much everything in stable 60 fps, and I don't see any difference between medium and ultra settings
More specifically: DOTA 2, Pathfinder Kingmaker (took 4 hours to set this one up, and it's the SECOND time), Chrono Ark, 1000x Resist, They Are Billions, Mechwarrior 5 with friends, TTRPGs in browser, and some souls-like once I'm done with one of the listed games
Ah, okay. "Pretty much everything" in 60 fps at medium settings sounds reasonable.
Not trying to hate here btw, I was just curious.
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Execute "ujust" and marvel at what's possible right out of the box. If you used KDE check out some simple tips on how to configure cool windows effects. A little wobble makes all the difference. Browse the apps you can install, there are some pretty neat things in there you probably never heard of before.
And don't forget: once you got the things you want working, let the system fade into the background. No need to constantly tinker with your distribution unless you enjoy it.
Can't live without my magic lamp animation for minimise/maximise. Feels so out of place without it
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Bazzite allows for tinkering just fine, it's just different so you have to be willing to put a little time in to learn how ostree works, for example.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Of course it can be tinkered with, but it wasn't really designed to be tinkered with in the same way that you can with a traditional Linux system. It's designed to keep users from messing with system files with its strict containerised workflow. It's certainly not targeted at users who'll want to hack systemd services, customise kernel modules, tweak system files under /etc and /usr, or even compile software from source.
I acknowledge that it's possible to create highly customised and reproducible systems with immutable distros, but it's a paradigm shift compared to a traditional *nix system.
I've spent 20+ years refining my knowledge of linux and BSD, I haven't got the patience to start over with these types of systems.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not at all criticising these systems for being different. They serve a completely different purpose —one that's just not for me.
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Yes gnome > KDE
This is a hill i will die on
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I've installed Fedora 42 KDE to try out Plasma 6.4 as last time I've used KDE it was 5.x... Anyhow, I'm back to GNOME after 2h of messing with settings unable to get desired results. And the KDE animations are just bad... Still better than Windows though.
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A lot of games are going to work without you having to do anything and some will need some tinkering. In that case, https://www.protondb.com/ will be your best friend, telling you exactly what you need to do to get things running.
That being said, some games simply can't be run under Linux. They might work in the future as compatibility improves but some won't. If it's an issue for you, you might want to dual boot windows as a workaround.
Funnily, sometimes the pirate version of a game works whilst the official one does not...
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Can't live without my magic lamp animation for minimise/maximise. Feels so out of place without it
Oh so you always need a lamp do you. Can you also fly??
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️ You just started a war. KDE > Gnome. 🤭
I can't get excited about the Gnome interface. It somehow works in such an unfamiliar way. What is the advantage supposed to be?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]gnome with arcmenu (I like windows like menu - the ads) dash to panel (place window menu at bottom alongside commonly used apps, date/time, and the control center), window thumbnails (pip any window) and a few other plugins is very nice looking imo feela like an os from the future, and its clean, stable. I got kde plasma looking pretty close to it layout wise, drag and drop was a bit more finnicky than enabling extensions and clicking through settings.
I just overall like the look better and it feels better to use, gnome feels like modern de, you can't just throw something together (someone who knows what they are doing coded those extensions and how it could fit within your layout, they tested it over time) while kde plasma feels like a really feature rich de from 2012, layout placement is up to you to test and figure out, idk how else to explain it in my head
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Of course it can be tinkered with, but it wasn't really designed to be tinkered with in the same way that you can with a traditional Linux system. It's designed to keep users from messing with system files with its strict containerised workflow. It's certainly not targeted at users who'll want to hack systemd services, customise kernel modules, tweak system files under /etc and /usr, or even compile software from source.
I acknowledge that it's possible to create highly customised and reproducible systems with immutable distros, but it's a paradigm shift compared to a traditional *nix system.
I've spent 20+ years refining my knowledge of linux and BSD, I haven't got the patience to start over with these types of systems.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not at all criticising these systems for being different. They serve a completely different purpose —one that's just not for me.
I was just pointing out that the "you can't tinker with immutable distros" thing is inaccurate. I am relatively new to Linux, so its not as big of a deal for me to adjust and learn how it works. But yeah it's different and there is a learning curve so if you've been using non-immutable distros for a long time, then it probably isn't worth re-learning a bunch of shit.
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Yes gnome > KDE
This is a hill i will die on
I try once each year for about a month but so far I just can't and I'm the opposite. Before the total style change it was also opposite and early kde was just kinda gross. Old gnome was my entry point with desktop environments and linux in general. When the change happened I tried literally everything else before kde because I didn't like the older versions but eventually it came standard on a lot of distros and I just got used to it.
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I was just pointing out that the "you can't tinker with immutable distros" thing is inaccurate. I am relatively new to Linux, so its not as big of a deal for me to adjust and learn how it works. But yeah it's different and there is a learning curve so if you've been using non-immutable distros for a long time, then it probably isn't worth re-learning a bunch of shit.
I kinda hope one day there is a "easy mode" Immutable distro, or perhaps atleast some kind of point-and-click GUI tools for managing something like flakes on a NixOS like system. I love the idea behind NixOS, but don't want to learn a new programming language just to configure my system. It'll get easier in the future I suppose. And when it does, I'll be here for it.
Obviously Bazzite is trying to be more beginner friendly which is cool, but it's still quite a complicated system underneath the limited GUI options. -
So anyway, any beginner tips?
ONE OF US ! ONE OF US !
is this your production machine? If yes, dont type random commands until you know exactly what they are.
I know it's Linux and you can try many things as you want, but unless you are very experienced, dont do it on your main laptop.
It is pretty difficult because you can do things like installing new enviroments or try out different hacks for free. If you really want to tinker, do it on a 2nd laptop or just in Virtual Machine.
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ONE OF US ! ONE OF US !
is this your production machine? If yes, dont type random commands until you know exactly what they are.
I know it's Linux and you can try many things as you want, but unless you are very experienced, dont do it on your main laptop.
It is pretty difficult because you can do things like installing new enviroments or try out different hacks for free. If you really want to tinker, do it on a 2nd laptop or just in Virtual Machine.
As this is bazzite, an immutable distro, the neat part is: if you reach finding out phase after fucking around, simply reboot and chose the previous version during boot.
Very convenient for people who like to mess around with their systems
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You've chosen an immutable distro based on rpm-ostree. If you want to install a program/application/app then flatpak is the way.
Heroic Launcher works great for installing GOG/Epic games but if you want to install a game or other program from an offline installer then I still fall back to Lutris.For more in-depth read up on rpm-ostree and flatpak
Heroic I find is great for offline installers. I actually prefer it to Lutris I think. You set up your application and it creates a prefix. Before selecting the executable you press the "run installer first" button and it runs the installer on the prefix. Once it's done you select the executable and it's set up and good to go.
The Lutris method, IIRC, is you create the prefix, select the installer to run, then you modify that to target the new executable after. It's not difficult, but the Heroic experience is slightly more streamlined I think.
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Personally, I recommend quitting Windows cold-turkey and not dual-booting at all. If a game genuinely doesn't work without dual-booting, you don't need it. No game is so important that it's worth compromising your security, privacy, and property rights over.
Yep, and the more people do this then the more likely it will be that games support Linux (or are at least tested to work with WINE/Proton.
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This 100%. Give up Windows and never look back, you will not regret it.
If you do then you already know that. The recommendation is still good, and I'm hoping you agree, but sometimes it doesn't work. Cool. We don't need to hear that every time. We know.
