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Meloni’s controversial anti-protest bill becomes Italian law

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    Why doesn't italy get the same treatment as hungary I wonder

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    Have you looked at Orban, that is one fugly dude 🤭

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      Have you looked at Orban, that is one fugly dude 🤭

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      Meloni looks like she sat on a pine cone and can't decide if she should push it out or suck it in further.

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        It's getting kinda repetitive saying "it's happening" every time is happening, but yeah. It's happening.

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          It's getting kinda repetitive saying "it's happening" every time is happening, but yeah. It's happening.

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          That's because it happens in 100 tiny baby steps

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            I wonder if there was another Italian leader that made protest illegal.

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              She was elected by the people and did not hide her fascist roots

              Have the liberties (or the lack of) that you voted for Italy.

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                She was elected by the people and did not hide her fascist roots

                Have the liberties (or the lack of) that you voted for Italy.

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                No she is not.

                EDIT: You're confusing her with Alessandra Mussolini

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                  Somehow not as bad Britain's equivalent

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                    With some good will and good intentions I might be able to understand some of the measures, like penalites for injuring police officers. Imo, people shouldn't harm each other. I wonder, how this will be like in practise though. Officer tries to move protester, who just stands still. Officer fakes fall and injury. "Mamma! La evil protestor has made me la bua!!!"

                    Anyway, even when trying to find something good in this new bill, in this, I can't:

                    The law introduces stricter penalties for protest-related offences, including [...] disruptive sit-ins

                    Especially, if I assume that "stricter" means there were already penalties in place before

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                      She looks like evil Emma Stone.

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                        Have you looked at Orban, that is one fugly dude 🤭

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                        Oooor ... Perhaps Italy simply isn't quite as far along in the playbook, and crucially, Meloni supports Ukraine — which, as it affects the security of the EU as a whole, to EU leaders is much more important than national policy.

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                          The law introduces stricter penalties for protest-related offences, including property damage and disruptive sit-ins, and grants broader powers to law enforcement. It allows intelligence agents to commit certain crimes for national security purposes without facing prosecution.

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                            With some good will and good intentions I might be able to understand some of the measures, like penalites for injuring police officers. Imo, people shouldn't harm each other. I wonder, how this will be like in practise though. Officer tries to move protester, who just stands still. Officer fakes fall and injury. "Mamma! La evil protestor has made me la bua!!!"

                            Anyway, even when trying to find something good in this new bill, in this, I can't:

                            The law introduces stricter penalties for protest-related offences, including [...] disruptive sit-ins

                            Especially, if I assume that "stricter" means there were already penalties in place before

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                            Basically, peaceful protest (from what I've heard in Italian media, defined as anything that disrupts the regular activities in the prison) is now a felony punishable with incarceration (not penalty cell time, mind you, actual additional years in prison).

                            This not only applies to actual inmates (whether found guilty or awaiting trial) but also irregular migrants detained in what are called "identification and expulsion centers" (CIE) but are basically just much worse prisons than regular ones.

                            Note that Italy's prisons (both the "real" ones and CIEs) are quite overcrowded (prisons have 120% occupation on average with peaks of 190% - I don't have data about CIEs but it's a known fact they are often overcrowded).

                            Prison overcrowding is sadly a historical problem in Italy, but it's gotten worse under Meloni's government (especially when it comes to minors), as they have instituted several new kinds of felonies and aggravating circumstances, without any new investment in prisons.

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                              Una mattina mi son svegliato

                              Eo ho trovato l'invasor

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                                Fascist doing fascist things.

                                Let's pretend we are totally surprised.

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                                  No she is not.

                                  EDIT: You're confusing her with Alessandra Mussolini

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                                  You would be correct with that

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                                    Oooor ... Perhaps Italy simply isn't quite as far along in the playbook, and crucially, Meloni supports Ukraine — which, as it affects the security of the EU as a whole, to EU leaders is much more important than national policy.

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                                    The security of their little buddies selling weapons

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                                      Time for mass protests against this bill.

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