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    The internet has become more and more complex. I miss the early 2000s when I was a kid and everything was open and easy to use. No need to register ,no need to download this or that app. Everything was easy, even the laws.

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      A QR code and a website I could understand. But app? No.

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      No. Not even that, that's just shit and the site brings a plethora of formatting issues and accessibility issues.

      Just give me a fucking paper menu.

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        I want everything as dumb as possible. I will register whatever I buy with the manufacturer for warranty purposes, but other than that: dumb toaster, dumb fridge, dumb washing machine, dumb robot vacuum cleaner, dumb doorbell, dumb locks, etc...

        If it doesn't need internet to function, it's not getting any.

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        And if it does need internet to function....I'm going to try to not buy it.

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          No. Not even that, that's just shit and the site brings a plethora of formatting issues and accessibility issues.

          Just give me a fucking paper menu.

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          Paper menu has accessibility issues too. You have to stand up and go to the counter, for one. You have to talk to someone.

          For different reasons, physical or mental, those aren't great for a lot of people.

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            I recently renovated and said fuck no to all the smart home shit. Just the idea of having to troubleshoot the WiFi because my kitchen light won't turn on drives me into a rage.

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            Good call.

            I took over for a previous manager who installed all smart lights controlled via Alexa. Every week....every fucking week...there would be a section not working, lights with disco colors, Alexa was offline so we could give the command to turn on lights..

            When I took over, 1st task was to rip out all the smart shit and I put in regular LED bulbs controlled with the light switch. Works every time

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              Try plugging in a fork. Those still do what they are supposed to do

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                The 5 ghz vs 2.4 is such a pain in the ass. As far as I can tell Android won't let you pick which to use so you can't be on the same network as the device, even with the same ssid.

                You can have your router split the different frequencies into different named networks to make it work. But you shouldn't have to

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                The next thing I'm going to try is temporarily turn off my router, make a hotspot with my Android phone, in the 2.4 Ghz spectrum, with no password security and try that. I don't care about tracking the cat's weight or being reminded that the app thinks I need to buy more litter or deodorizer, I just want to set some settings (like how long to wait to rotate the poop into the hopper after a cat walks away from the poop machine) and that would make the machine "better."

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                  Not to mention all the dependencies for everything, I've gone multiple layers deep trying to install dependencies for the dependencies just to use a single module. Tbf I've mostly used Linux for bioinformatics so perhaps the problem for me is biologists creating software for other biologists and none are truly computer scientists (including myself)

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                  It very much depends on the build of Linux you're getting but there's definitely quite a lot of builds out there that were designed for enthusiasts, where after you've installed it you have to spend the next several hours configuring everything. Your average computer user has very limited patience for this assuming they're prepared to even do it at all.

                  I bet that 99% of people don't even really know how you would go about installing a new operating system. It's not exactly intuitive.

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                    Paper menu has accessibility issues too. You have to stand up and go to the counter, for one. You have to talk to someone.

                    For different reasons, physical or mental, those aren't great for a lot of people.

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                    True, but both is fine together.

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                      The internet has become more and more complex. I miss the early 2000s when I was a kid and everything was open and easy to use. No need to register ,no need to download this or that app. Everything was easy, even the laws.

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                      The laws have always been a quagmire.

                      I mean shit, you can't even handle salmon suspiciously anymore

                      https://www.tastingtable.com/1913810/weird-uk-law-salmon-crime/

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                        Good call.

                        I took over for a previous manager who installed all smart lights controlled via Alexa. Every week....every fucking week...there would be a section not working, lights with disco colors, Alexa was offline so we could give the command to turn on lights..

                        When I took over, 1st task was to rip out all the smart shit and I put in regular LED bulbs controlled with the light switch. Works every time

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                        The closest thing I have to "the world of tomorrow" are regular degular hand operated dimmer switches. They're great. I have one in every room.

                        No idea why everyone thinks you need the Internet to dim a light.

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                          Omg yes preach !!! I feel it's everything these days, coffee maker....app
                          Vacuum....app
                          Scale...app
                          Electric shower nozzle...fucking app
                          Everything needs a password and an account and my mind is crumbling because of it.

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                          You know you can dumb shit, right?

                          It's rarely a secret these days whether something has wifi, or Bluetooth.

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                            I want everything as dumb as possible. I will register whatever I buy with the manufacturer for warranty purposes, but other than that: dumb toaster, dumb fridge, dumb washing machine, dumb robot vacuum cleaner, dumb doorbell, dumb locks, etc...

                            If it doesn't need internet to function, it's not getting any.

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                            Last time I registered was for my dishwasher, all it did was get me on the mailing list to buy another dishwasher.

                            How many fuckin dishwashers do you think I need, mate?

                            I just stopped registering anything. I'm entitled to my warranty either way.

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                              ...TOSLINK can't handle atmos bandwidth; you need eARC for uncompressed multichannel digital audio...

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                              If only eARC worked well. It's support seems garbage.

                              I had nothing but problems with eARC. DRM errors. Sound cutting out constantly. Device detection not working so the TV swaps back to internal speakers.

                              Not one problem since swapping to optical.

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                                Try plugging in a fork. Those still do what they are supposed to do

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                                I've got some bad news

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                                  Paper menu has accessibility issues too. You have to stand up and go to the counter, for one. You have to talk to someone.

                                  For different reasons, physical or mental, those aren't great for a lot of people.

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                                  Mate you're already in the restaurant. If you couldn't talk to anyone, or move your own weight - you wouldn't have made it inside the restaurant to the counter. Those issues already had solutions to get to the point of ordering.

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                                    You know you can dumb shit, right?

                                    It's rarely a secret these days whether something has wifi, or Bluetooth.

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                                    TVs seem to have been pretty much taken over by 'smart' features.

                                    I don't mean this as a dare or a gotcha, but genuinely asking if you know of a decently priced modern TV that's 'dumb' please let me know so I can buy it.

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                                      I'm half on one side, half on the other.

                                      The line I draw is between safety and convenience. On the safety side, I want things to be very manual. I don't want some app or external system managing whether or not the lights stay on, or whatever, on the convenience side, I 1000% want a way to manage things like the lighting from an app.

                                      So anywhere that safety is a concern, like the kitchen, bathroom, a handful of other places.... There's zero "smart" anything. Everywhere else, yeah, I can turn off my lights from an app.

                                      When I'm in my office/living room, where safety isn't really a concern, I don't have to get up to turn on the lights, I can yell at my Google home to do it for me, or use an app. If I want the lights to be some shade of turquoise, I use the app....

                                      In the kitchen, as an example, no such control exists. You have to push the light switch, and you get basic bitch white light. You don't get an option. You want the light off? Take your fingers and do the thing that makes the light switch go click and turn off the lights.

                                      The decision to make anything smart relies on whether or not I'm going to be in danger if the lights go out and there's no way to turn them on again because the Internet is down.

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                                      I've seen some neat features included, but it's never worth all the added bullshit they add in. Being able to tell if your oven is still on, or garage door is still open is great, but the app is never just that. It always comes with a truck load of bullshit noone asked for.

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                                        Last time I registered was for my dishwasher, all it did was get me on the mailing list to buy another dishwasher.

                                        How many fuckin dishwashers do you think I need, mate?

                                        I just stopped registering anything. I'm entitled to my warranty either way.

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                                        That's why I use mail relays.

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                                          My poor tv is like, "connect to the internet? I need to call home! Help, i've been abducted by a luddite!"

                                          Tv, you are never getting my wifi password.

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                                          Through absolute chance (the TV i wanted was sold out on clearance so I got a different one on clearance) I ended up with an Android TV-powered sony bravia. It lets you go into the app permissions and disable the optical recognition whateverthefuck they call it software. The rest of the analytics can be blocked by some regex firewall/DNS rules. It's the only smart TV OS that I would recommend.

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