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DM me on Spotify: Spotify launches a messaging feature.

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  • pro@programming.devP [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36348361

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    Ugh, I hate when services stray from their original purpose and add random features. WhatsApp's status thing isn't so bad, but Spotify's user messaging is just clutter. I just want to listen to music, you know? Maybe profiles for discovering new music are okay, but messaging? Nah, not needed. Keep it simple, music only.

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      Hot take: buy your music instead—direct from the artist whenever possible, or start building your collection from whatever you can find at a thrift store.

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      there's no music stores on the high seas, matey.

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      • rozodru@piefed.socialR [email protected]

        what alternative did you end up going with?

        I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.

        If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.

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        I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.

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        • rozodru@piefed.socialR [email protected]

          what alternative did you end up going with?

          I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.

          If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.

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          I switched to Qobuz. They use https://soundiiz.com/ to migrate, I think it was free transfering to them?

          I think it reported a 90% success rate + a few that it picked, but got wrong. It mostly failed on my instrumental stuff, standard stuff was fine.

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          • pro@programming.devP [email protected]

            cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36348361

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            Have to justify those price increases somehow.

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            • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

              I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.

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              nope just tried it, desktop app doesn't work on my distro, can't delete the account now as the deletion method via the website doesn't work.

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                I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.

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                ah this was EXACTLY what I was looking for! thanks!

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                • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

                  I am testing Deezer at the moment. To import playlists and songs, they advertise this 3rd party service, which worked for me.

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                  The one owned by a Russian billionaire?

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                    I used something called spotDL, it grabs your music from youtube. I also had to get several thousand tracks, but it still found almost all of them. Didnt find maybe 50 out all those.

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                    There used to be some programs that ripped directly from Spotify API. Did those all go the way of the dinosaur?

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                    • artyom@piefed.socialA [email protected]

                      They've had the first 3 for a while

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                      which I hate.... especially the "shorts"....

                      tween daughter has adhd, easily falls into tiktok brainrot hellholes. Has trouble with self-regulation and self-control.... I still want her to have music to listen to and do things (some lofi to study/chill to, etc)... but now, Spotify is yet another vector for distraction that consumes her.

                      People be like "parent's should take responsibility for their kids"... I'm like "mf, I'm trying, but every app in the world is trying to be social media" And the parental controls they offer are shiiiiiiiit. Because it's not in a companies best interest to provide parents with tools to limit features.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        I picked up some mp3 players with Bluetooth for about $7 each on aliexpress. Just finished acquiring my entire Spotify liked list. In my house, we're getting back on the correct timeline.

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                        I gotta ask - why not just play the music on your phone?

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                        • rozodru@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                          what alternative did you end up going with?

                          I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.

                          If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.

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                          I am very happy with my recent switch from Spotify to TIDAL

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                          • rozodru@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                            what alternative did you end up going with?

                            I had a script to convert my main Spotify playlist (5000+ songs) to download from soulseek but...yeah that would take a VERY long time and I really didn't feel like being a soulseek asshole going that route.

                            If there was something out there where I can take my spotify playlist and just convert it and use it on another/better platform I'd switch right now.

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                            I've been a happy Tidal user for years fwiw. The app is great as is music availability and discovery. I went back to Spotify for a while because I was missing its discovery features like discover weekly, but Tidal has greatly improved since then, and now features a daily discovery playlist (10 tracks, which I greatly prefer to Spotify's weekly 30), plus 8 custom mixes based on genres you listen to. Track radio is also solid.

                            Also, it's maybe the only subscription service that instead of creating new tiers, merged the two it had before into one, keeping the upper tier's features at the lower one's cost

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                            • pro@programming.devP [email protected]

                              cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36348361

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                              I stopped using Spotify years ago and every time I hear about it I only get my decision further reinforced. What an absolutely cancerous company.

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                              • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus_ [email protected]

                                there's no music stores on the high seas, matey.

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                                Sometimes I like to purchase music, for artists that I’m a big fan of and want to financially support.

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                                • rozodru@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                  nope just tried it, desktop app doesn't work on my distro, can't delete the account now as the deletion method via the website doesn't work.

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                                  Yeah, it doesn't have a native Linux client.

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    ...the websites that host stuff and do it free and efficiently.

                                    It's never free. The instance you're using isn't free; it's paid for by donations. ISPs and server hosts don't just give bandwidth out of charity or for the public good. One way or another, these for-profit companies are getting their pound of flesh, typically by selling targeted ad space.

                                    The fact that these companies are adding chat features means they're now going to try mining conversations for additional consumer profile data points, which they can then sell to advertisers.

                                    This new change is gross, and I hope nobody uses it.

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                                    Which they can sell to advertisers LLM and AI companies.

                                    It's not talked about too much, because it is not in the best interest of the stockholders. But AI as it was popularized by openAI and both images and text generators already reached a boundary of data availability. There's no more human made data. They are now resorting to synthetic data, which is to make one first generation LLM model create tons of data to train newer or more tailored weighs models. With the issue that this new models develop problems from inbreeding of the data. Training models on other genAI products poisons the models and corrupts their generative power in just a few generations. This is why genAI images are increasingly turning yellow, the same reason newer models are more fragile and hallucinate or go psychotic more easily than old models. So, the AI companies need new sources of human made data to mix in with the synthetic data.

                                    The main problem is that we ran out, there's no more data made by humans to train AI with. Humans don't create new data fast enough to train all the new models with the new doodads and features the AI companies want to sell. So now these companies will pay anything just to get their hands on new fresh stuff. These is why any app in the planet will now pivot to do anything they can to get chats going. It's a new source of data to sell to data brokers.

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                                      The one owned by a Russian billionaire?

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                                      Wooooooot? How did I miss that during my research?

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                                        Sometimes I like to purchase music, for artists that I’m a big fan of and want to financially support.

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                                        unless you're buying music on CDs directly from the artists, you aren't purchasing music, you're leasing access to it from corporations like Spotify or Apple. even music you "buy", you don't actually own, per their terms of service, as they did not sell the music to you, they sold access to it, and they retain the right to restrict or remove your access to it at any time.

                                        terms you agreed to, of course.

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                                          unless you're buying music on CDs directly from the artists, you aren't purchasing music, you're leasing access to it from corporations like Spotify or Apple. even music you "buy", you don't actually own, per their terms of service, as they did not sell the music to you, they sold access to it, and they retain the right to restrict or remove your access to it at any time.

                                          terms you agreed to, of course.

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                                          Yeah, I buy CDs or vinyl quite often. I’ve got a few cassette tapes kicking around too. Bandcamp is also a good option to genuinely purchase the digital files

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