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What is the best Power Outlet, and why?

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  • C [email protected]

    Yes G, the UK one, is generally regarded as the safest.

    This showcase also doesn't show that UK sockets have flaps come down on the interior of the socket, so unless the longer and shielded earth pin is pushed in first, the flaps exposing live and neutral won't raise.

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    My mum discovered this firsthand when I was a silly child who tried poking stuff in the plug socket

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    • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT [email protected]

      fuck's happenin in italy

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      Compatible to everything. Takes type F without issues.

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        K is the happiest. I like that one.
        B is shocked (pun!) at what's going on.
        H is encouraging me to see things in a racist light.

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        Well, if we are going to hell I might as well say it's "I" that has me racist now that you bring it up

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          The British standard is still stuck in 1947, where the expected use cases were kettles, washing machines

          People still use kettles and washing machines.

          For your USB power supply, mobile charger, LED table lamp, game console, etc., which doesn’t even have an earth connection, not so much.

          You can get a USB power strip.

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          You can still have sockets that accept grounded appliances like washing machines without ALWAYS requiring a bulky third prong that's not gonna get used anyways. And about the shutters you can have them open when both prongs are inserted at the same time

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          • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT [email protected]

            fuck's happenin in italy

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            Because it's a hot mess trying to accept both type F and type L. The traditional type L socket has three pins inline. The pin spacing between Live and Neutral for an earthed device using type L is wider than using type F, so plugging in a Schuko won't work in normal type L sockets. However, some type L sockets have extra, smaller holes at Europlug spacing, to accept ungrounded type C plugs.

            The picture here shows two Type L sockets with Europlug expansions on the sides (C/L combo), and an F/L combo in the middle.

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              A useful source:
              https://worldofsockets.com

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              B or N. They’re simple and effective, grounded but optionally, but most importantly you can fit two in a small space.

              I can’t tell if N is polarized though, so B is the boss

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              • matttheprogrammer@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                any of the ones with a ground, i'd say

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                I recently bought a house built in 1942. Not only did all the power receptacles lack a ground, they had all also been wired with reverse polarity, and for good measure the lower receptacles in all the outlets had been partially blocked by baseboard radiators added a few decades later. Since each room only had one outlet, I had visions of masses of extensions cords and plug expanders somehow not burning the house down or electrocuting anybody.

                Fortunately these outlets had all been fed with MC cable (the kind wrapped in a flexible steel sheath) so it was possible to fix and ground everything properly with new receptacles without having to re-wire the entire house.

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                  A useful source:
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                  I like N,C,E,F, and K But I really like the switches on the UK plugs.

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                    Why? It doesn't make any difference with AC

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                    In the particular case the sign is trying to prevent it's to keep lazy idiots from electrocuting themselves stringing up Christmas lights.

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                      Does Japan / type-A not have grounded circuits?

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                      Their whole homes are on GFCI

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                        Because it's a hot mess trying to accept both type F and type L. The traditional type L socket has three pins inline. The pin spacing between Live and Neutral for an earthed device using type L is wider than using type F, so plugging in a Schuko won't work in normal type L sockets. However, some type L sockets have extra, smaller holes at Europlug spacing, to accept ungrounded type C plugs.

                        The picture here shows two Type L sockets with Europlug expansions on the sides (C/L combo), and an F/L combo in the middle.

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                        Here in Romania we use Type F but sometimes also install a modular Type L socket alongside regular ones because it's smaller and you can fit 2 of those in place of a full Type F/Schuko one. We don't use Italian plugs and so only use them for europlugs (max 2.5A and double-insulated so no ground needed)

                        (Kind of something like this)

                        I do find it kind of sad seeing them getting slowly replaced even in Italy (I know it won't fully happen of course) because they're very space efficient

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                          Well, if we are going to hell I might as well say it's "I" that has me racist now that you bring it up

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                          I live with type I (I'm Australian) so it's just a normal socket for me. Though looking at it more critically it reminds me of a female toilet/bathroom sign. Not that it's an exact replica, but it just gives the impression.

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                            You can still have sockets that accept grounded appliances like washing machines without ALWAYS requiring a bulky third prong that's not gonna get used anyways. And about the shutters you can have them open when both prongs are inserted at the same time

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                            I have literally never felt that British plugs were bulky

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                              Growing up in the U.S. Ive never been able to shock myself plugging in a type A or B connection. 35 years in and never met someone in person who had ever complained about doing so. Now dryer plugs annoy me. They are the 220/240v, and I know there are at least 3 different types. So I've had to swap the power cords on the dryer in every place I've lived in. (I just keep the old ones). But if you rent a place built in 1970, 1985, and 2010 (random dates). They will all likely have different outlets.

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                              Usually it's from a lack of maintenence causing the receptacle to loosen leaving part of the plug exposed.

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                                The criticisms of type B are so minor, it reaches so hard.

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                                If there's an American plug to be criticized, it's the Edison plug.

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                                  IIRC most of the world relies on ground fault protection to protect against failure which is why we use ground pins, in Japan they detect short circuits which is roughly equivalent in safety.

                                  I'm not sure why or how, but I remember from when I looked it up when I was out there last year that was the explanation I found

                                  Edit: I'd love to be corrected by whoever downvoted

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                                  Virtually all systems protect again shortcircuit at the breaker lever. Japan mostly has no ground but a RCD/GFCI for the whole house.

                                  Basically how this works is that it checks if all the current leaving on the live wire is also returning on the neutral wire. If the current returning on the neutral is less than the one leaving then a part of the current must have found another way to get to ground (through your body for example) and it breaks the circuit hopefully before any danger could happen.

                                  Now this doesn't make ground useless, there are 2 different protection systems that work in different ways, and sometimes protect in different scenarios too, the RCD is also an active protection that can and fail, compared to ground wich is passive.

                                  Having both is ALWAYS safer

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                                    I have literally never felt that British plugs were bulky

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                                    Fair point, thing is there just exists a better way of doing small ungrounded plugs like phone chargers, I honestly haven't used a British phone charger but from what I saw they seem pretty bulky compared to what I have

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                                      I like type F for the symmetry. However, type K is smiling.

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                                        This is

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                                          Obviously you take a page out of gaming laptops books and just plug in more USB C cables for more power! You now need 4 USB C cables to power that toaster. And your stove? 12 of them should do!

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                                          That’s when big boi power comes into play.

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