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What is the best Power Outlet, and why?

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  • C [email protected]

    I really think we should give japan more shit for this. Type A is terrible on it's own merits, they don't even polarize it. But then they have the gall to use two different frequencies with the divide in the middle of Honshu (the big island with the major cities). And unlike reasonable people they don't do a "50 hz gets this plug, but 60 gets a non compatible one". No, both use the plug that North America phased out over safety concerns.

    But to answer the question, type B is nice and homey, but types I and N feel a fun mix of weird and foreign but close enough to be interesting. Most of the rest just feel like various "yeah it's a circle with two circular prongs all right"

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    I never knew any of this. Wtf, Japan!?

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      I defer to Technology Connections

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      I'd love to tell you what he recommended, but I likely fell asleep around the 15-minute mark, because I usually watch his videos in bed.

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      • joel_feila@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

        type I look sexy so that is the best

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        Looks like the Ghostface mask.

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        • rmuk@feddit.ukR [email protected]

          G.

          The plugs are shuttered, so they're protected from being stabby-stabbed. The plug's prongs are sheathed so live metal is never exposed, negating the need for recessed sockets. Compared to recessed plugs, it takes less force to insert/remove them, but the oversized prongs and their triangular arrangement means it can safely withstand more lateral stress than any other plugs. Every plug has a fuse appropriate to the appliance so every device has appropriate protection while also allowing any device to be used on any outlet - no need for dedicated outlets for tumble dryers. And the plugs are traditionally right-angled, so once they're plugged in they only protrude about a centimeter, making it easy to plug things in behind furniture.

          The whole 'every plug has a switch' thing is bullshit, though. That's just weird.

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          Type F is also shuttered (at least in modern installations), no metal is exposed if it's only inserted half way because it is recessed and many plugs are also sheathed. Fuses in plugs are unnecessary, because there are circuit breakers (which also allow you to turn off the power to individual parts of the home if you're installing a lamp fitting or something). They also work with tumble dryers and the plugs are also generally right angled and stick out no further than a type G.

          Additionally the plugs are compatible with many other standards, non grounded plugs can be very compact, making things like USB chargers much smaller. And they won't impale your foot if you step on them.

          Sorry, but F is just objectively superior.

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          • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            I never knew any of this. Wtf, Japan!?

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            Welcome to the world of history and two different electrifications.

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            • I [email protected]

              Because it's a hot mess trying to accept both type F and type L. The traditional type L socket has three pins inline. The pin spacing between Live and Neutral for an earthed device using type L is wider than using type F, so plugging in a Schuko won't work in normal type L sockets. However, some type L sockets have extra, smaller holes at Europlug spacing, to accept ungrounded type C plugs.

              The picture here shows two Type L sockets with Europlug expansions on the sides (C/L combo), and an F/L combo in the middle.

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              Now really imagine what would happen if Americans tried to switch to metric.

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              • C [email protected]

                They're all functional, but the UK's Type G plug is the best of all plugs out there IMHO. I'm a Yankee and our plugs are fine, but the shutter design and built in fused plugs of the Type G are just.......chef's kiss.

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                Sorry but the EU plug is superior in my opinion.
                We can at least have slim and full size AC-plugs and not have a behemoth of a plug just to charge a phone.

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                  Even tho I live where type F/C is common, I know that type G is the best. Reason is that ground pin always connects first and disconnects last. This is an ultimate way to make ground pin.

                  Also, type F/C and some other types sometimes doesn't have ground. There is literally not a single type G plug/socket without a ground. Simply safer.

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                  Yeah but the plug is FUCKING HUGE.

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                    Even tho I live where type F/C is common, I know that type G is the best. Reason is that ground pin always connects first and disconnects last. This is an ultimate way to make ground pin.

                    Also, type F/C and some other types sometimes doesn't have ground. There is literally not a single type G plug/socket without a ground. Simply safer.

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                    I've seen type G plugs which have a plastic pin for the earth connection

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Nah, they're too power limited. What you really want will require a 3 phase hookup to the bedroom.

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                      Just be careful, three phase hookups = potential hurt feelings and messy drama.

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                        Type G. For safety.

                        G

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                        • tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT [email protected]

                          fuck's happenin in italy

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                          The pictured one is an universal socket that can accept any plug sold in the eu, because if you go to buy any fridge or oven or washer it comes with the German plug

                          Otherwise, any other plug (phone chargers, lamps, laptops) comes with the standard which is this:

                          It doesn't fit in a German plug as the diameter of the holes and the spacing is slightly different, hence the weirdly shaped wholes

                          It has both prongs insulated so you don't get accidentally electrocuted if your finger accidentally touch one during unplugging (especially toddlers)

                          In my house I exclusively got pure L sockets without the double holes and I wanted to kill the sadist electrician who decided to install them everywhere. (It's a money issue, universal socket by regulations need 2.5 mm² section copper wires, while the 10A L socket can use cheaper 1.5 mm² section copper wires - but still, how much he saved, 50€ in total? Asshole, I had to spend 3x that to replace all the sockets)

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                            Even tho I live where type F/C is common, I know that type G is the best. Reason is that ground pin always connects first and disconnects last. This is an ultimate way to make ground pin.

                            Also, type F/C and some other types sometimes doesn't have ground. There is literally not a single type G plug/socket without a ground. Simply safer.

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                            Afaik ground connection is made first on schuko connector too and I've seen plastic prongs on UK plugs for ground (even though I live in europe and have only 3 of them, one is still fake ground) yet I've never seen a plastic grounded schuko. That UK bitch is safe but I'm not sold yet on whether it is the best of the best.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              A useful source:
                              https://worldofsockets.com

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                              F, C, E, K..... Are they all directly compatible?

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                                F, C, E, K..... Are they all directly compatible?

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                                They are, but they do have slight differences. For instance, the type E plug is often used in Belgium and France, it has a ground pin just below center. It basically means that you cannot turn the plug upside down, similar to the plug used in the US, which can be very annoying when you are used to plugs F and C, these are grounded in the bezel, allowing the user to plug upside down.

                                Type E always bugs me when I visit Belgium or France and I do that often. It's like the original USB plug, you always plug it in wrong on first try.

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                                  This is

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                                  That doesn't ground a lot of plugs

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                                    Even tho I live where type F/C is common, I know that type G is the best. Reason is that ground pin always connects first and disconnects last. This is an ultimate way to make ground pin.

                                    Also, type F/C and some other types sometimes doesn't have ground. There is literally not a single type G plug/socket without a ground. Simply safer.

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                                    Type G can also be ungrounded (the grounding pin is just plastic)

                                    And type F (and E and K) are also made so that ground is always connected first and disconnected last (when they are grounded).

                                    What makes G somewhat better (and why the ungrounded plugs has the plastic pin) is that the holes for the living room live wire are closed by a shutter that can only be removed by a lever in the ground hole.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      Wrong, it's fused because in the UK they have 32A 240V circuits, a fuse is important when dealing with that much current. In Australia we only have 16A 240V circuits as standard so there is no need for a fuse.

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                                      They have fuses because of their ring circuits from after WW2. You're the one who's wrong.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        F, C, E, K..... Are they all directly compatible?

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                                        Are H and J compatible?

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          A useful source:
                                          https://worldofsockets.com

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                                          Tom Scott already answered this

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q

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