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What is the best Power Outlet, and why?

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    The British plug has a lot of features that are supposed to make it very, very safe. It'd be interesting to see if there's a study out there that tries to make apples-to-apples comparisons of electrical accidents in different countries. Do those features actually work out in practice?

    The US plug is bad, but does that actually translate into more accidents? Hard to say. If you can do the study above, then you can start making the argument for switching to something else.

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      Ground is a bit overrated, which is why the Japanese don't use it. They use GFCI instead.

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      Without a ground the only way to trip a GFCI is through your body. GFCI is great, but not infallible. I'll keep my grounds.

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        Type N might not be the best but it was like a gift from heavens here in Brazil. We had no standard before it so most outlets would take one or two unsafe options; most houses would not ground their outlets, people would yank out the ground pin from plugs to make them fit; washing machines would often come with a completely different plug that some houses would just have a different outlet for, while others would use adapters. And so many other issues.

        Nowadays you don't even need to see what you're doing because you can just stick your hand into outlets to feel where it is and insert the plug blindly without any risk.

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        It is the best but for one fault: both 120V and 240V versions are compatible.

        Otherwise, it's got every single technical advantage of F (Schuko), while being cheaper to manufacture and install.

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          The British plug has a lot of features that are supposed to make it very, very safe. It'd be interesting to see if there's a study out there that tries to make apples-to-apples comparisons of electrical accidents in different countries. Do those features actually work out in practice?

          The US plug is bad, but does that actually translate into more accidents? Hard to say. If you can do the study above, then you can start making the argument for switching to something else.

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          I'm sure most plugs have identical features.

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            I'm sure most plugs have identical features.

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            No, not even close.

            https://youtu.be/UEfP1OKKz_Q

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              Type K cause it looks like a happy face.

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                Doesn't matter because you leave it plugged in and flip the switch to fully disconnect it. I don't know how you savages live without that feature.

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                Why would I ever want to turn it off?
                Under my desk I have like 15 things plugged in. None of them ever get unplugged. Turning off the outlet is of literally zero value to me.
                Making those plugs into a giant fucking black hole mass that takes up half the desk is not something I want.

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                  I really like the power outlets in the EU. You don't have to fart around with different sized prongs and the voltage is higher which makes things like tea kettles far more efficient.

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                    I really think we should give japan more shit for this. Type A is terrible on it's own merits, they don't even polarize it. But then they have the gall to use two different frequencies with the divide in the middle of Honshu (the big island with the major cities). And unlike reasonable people they don't do a "50 hz gets this plug, but 60 gets a non compatible one". No, both use the plug that North America phased out over safety concerns.

                    But to answer the question, type B is nice and homey, but types I and N feel a fun mix of weird and foreign but close enough to be interesting. Most of the rest just feel like various "yeah it's a circle with two circular prongs all right"

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                    What a mess.
                    Fortunately, the frequency thing is less of an issue with modern power supplies, like my laptop charger is rated for 100-240V 50-60 Hz, so it Just Works. But I imagine that was more of a pain before these were widespread.

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                      And for kettles and washing machines we still have earth connections. Doesn't make sense to make it mandatory so a 5W charger has to be bigger than the phone.

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                      Just use a usb charger

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                        Fair point, thing is there just exists a better way of doing small ungrounded plugs like phone chargers, I honestly haven't used a British phone charger but from what I saw they seem pretty bulky compared to what I have

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                        Most public places including buses have USB ports. And my mains phone charger folds the earth pin in anyway, so it's not too bulky.

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                          There was two different ways you could have ordered this alphabetically, and you failed to do either.

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                            Just use a usb charger

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                            That was my complaint...

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                              Type B, H, or I. They look unpleasantly surprised by what I'm shoving in their mouths. Definitely not K, because he looks like he likes it.

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                                The British one. It has a switch and a fuse, and later versions have age-verification so your kids can no longer plug in your adult toys.

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                                I'm actually kinda surprised that more don't have switches, but I suppose if you have radial rather than ring circuits you don't have to play 'hunt the appliance that tripped all your switches' quite so hard

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                                  Brazilian Type N looks like it's not a big deal, but the shape and depth are actually extremely good - you get a fantastic connection that never wobbles but also comes out when you need it without having weird pins or moving locks that always end up failing in some other designs. It's also compact and stacks nicely.

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                                    B or N. They’re simple and effective, grounded but optionally, but most importantly you can fit two in a small space.

                                    I can’t tell if N is polarized though, so B is the boss

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                                    N is polarized - but it assumes the device will retain the grounding middle pin, which forces a specific orientation. If the device uses two pins, or the user cuts out the middle pin, there's no physical size difference to prevent inverting the polarity.

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                                      There was two different ways you could have ordered this alphabetically, and you failed to do either.

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                                      Isn't it beautiful

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                                        Italy WTF man? Also fuck Type H!

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                                        Type-L is three prongs in a row. But there are two different Type-L sizes. Because one is rated for 10A and the wider one for 16A. The round socket in the middle is just a universal socket that also accepts Schuko/Europlug/Type-C/Type-E/Type-F

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                                          I see a lot of your comments about F being objectively same or better compared to G. The only thing I'd throw into the mix is the socket switch feels so logical, I'm really surprised it's not more standard.

                                          High frequency use case: I don't need my microwave on all the time showing me the time, so I switch it off at the socket unless I'm using it

                                          Low frequency use case: before going on holiday I switch all the electrics off at the sockets

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                                          Socket switch isn't really a feature of the socket itself. I've had schuko sockets with switches. It's just not as common

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