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  • seathru@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

    You purposely pick up and sit in silence? Not even a "Yo", "Sup", or "Aye"?

    I wondered why people have been doing that when I call them at work. Sucks to be them, they've been waiting 2 weeks to 2 months for an appointment. I just hang up and move on to the next. If they didn't want to talk they should have let it go to voicemail.

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    You purposely pick up and sit in silence? Not even a "Yo", "Sup", or "Aye"?

    Yup. AI spam calls generally hang up within 3 seconds if they don't hear a voice on the other end. It's when they detect a voice that the auto dialer connects you with the scammer.

    Meanwhile 99% of the people I want to talk to are contacts in my phone or businesses with caller id.

    I don't answer calls from random numbers anyways so it's largely irrelevant unless I'm expecting calls for some reason.

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    • seathru@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

      You purposely pick up and sit in silence? Not even a "Yo", "Sup", or "Aye"?

      I wondered why people have been doing that when I call them at work. Sucks to be them, they've been waiting 2 weeks to 2 months for an appointment. I just hang up and move on to the next. If they didn't want to talk they should have let it go to voicemail.

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      I do because in general one of the following scenarios happen:

      1. A person is on the other side and when they notice the call went through they say hello (at which point I always reply regaedless of being scam/unexpected call/etc)
      2. A robot is on the other side and automatically starts blabbering gibberish (usually it is instant hang-up when I hear this)
      3. A robot is on the other side and waits for a signal, hanging up in around 3-5 seconds (since I was silent)

      But to be fair if it was ever a human in scenario 3 and I missed an important call, I wouldn't know (however I don't think that ever happened)

      Also, the burden of initiating conversation should be on the active caller side, not on the passice receiver

      And lastly, I heard thar if you answer the robots, your number gets flagged as real (instead of other robot), making the scammers call you more often (I'm agnostic in regards to this statement)

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      • R [email protected]

        Now that you mention it, I think I've noticed that too. Is it like the phone version of the Gen Z stare?

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        Actually I think the few seconds might be caused by people taking calls on their ear buds.

        I use a shitty android and JBLs so maybe airpods don't have that slight delay when they connect.

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        • C [email protected]

          Honestly I'm too worried about my voice/image being AI spoofed to bother answering any calls I'm not expecting.

          While I know I'm not rich enough to be a target I lack the cybersecurity skills to chew what I might bite off if I made it personal by trolling them.

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          It’s not necessarily about being rich. You have an identity that can be abused to get stuff like credit and loans and open up accounts depending on what they can get. Obviously they’re not going to get THAT far with just a single recording of you saying “hello”, but I want to dispel the myth that only the rich are targeted by scammers

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            Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

            Yeah, right.

            I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

            Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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            Maybe if it is very ironic or something, but otherwise just report and move on

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              It’s not necessarily about being rich. You have an identity that can be abused to get stuff like credit and loans and open up accounts depending on what they can get. Obviously they’re not going to get THAT far with just a single recording of you saying “hello”, but I want to dispel the myth that only the rich are targeted by scammers

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              You have an identity that can be abused to get stuff like credit and loans

              I have grandparents. Don't want them getting scammed.

              And hello isn't enough but a 10 word sentence is plenty.

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                You purposely pick up and sit in silence? Not even a "Yo", "Sup", or "Aye"?

                Yup. AI spam calls generally hang up within 3 seconds if they don't hear a voice on the other end. It's when they detect a voice that the auto dialer connects you with the scammer.

                Meanwhile 99% of the people I want to talk to are contacts in my phone or businesses with caller id.

                I don't answer calls from random numbers anyways so it's largely irrelevant unless I'm expecting calls for some reason.

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                Meanwhile 99% of the people I want to talk to are contacts in my phone or businesses with caller id.

                And that's why I don't feel too bad moving on to the next. If I'm calling someone, they had to have called me at least once already. If they're too lazy to save the number and want to play silly games, I have better uses of my time. I was just curious of the thought process.

                It's when they detect a voice that the auto dialer connects you with the scammer.

                I just hang up as soon as I hear that little "bloop" sound and that cuts out 90% of them.

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                  Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

                  Yeah, right.

                  I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

                  Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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                  Ask them how much washing up they could do without any washing up liquid

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                  • R [email protected]

                    Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

                    Yeah, right.

                    I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

                    Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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                    Every time I get called by a spammed I do my best to waste as much of their time as possible and consider it a badge of honour when they get pissed and start swearing at me.

                    Every minute with me is a minute they aren't stealing from someone's grandma.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Every time I get called by a spammed I do my best to waste as much of their time as possible and consider it a badge of honour when they get pissed and start swearing at me.

                      Every minute with me is a minute they aren't stealing from someone's grandma.

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                      It ain't much, but it's honest work.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        I do because in general one of the following scenarios happen:

                        1. A person is on the other side and when they notice the call went through they say hello (at which point I always reply regaedless of being scam/unexpected call/etc)
                        2. A robot is on the other side and automatically starts blabbering gibberish (usually it is instant hang-up when I hear this)
                        3. A robot is on the other side and waits for a signal, hanging up in around 3-5 seconds (since I was silent)

                        But to be fair if it was ever a human in scenario 3 and I missed an important call, I wouldn't know (however I don't think that ever happened)

                        Also, the burden of initiating conversation should be on the active caller side, not on the passice receiver

                        And lastly, I heard thar if you answer the robots, your number gets flagged as real (instead of other robot), making the scammers call you more often (I'm agnostic in regards to this statement)

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                        Also, the burden of initiating conversation should be on the active caller side, not on the passice receiver

                        As an active caller, unless there is a ton of background noise, I may or may not get any indication that the person I'm calling has actually picked up. So I'm just going to sit there until they say something or hang up.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          Now that you mention it, I think I've noticed that too. Is it like the phone version of the Gen Z stare?

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                          the Gen Z stare

                          That's just an effective tactic. I'm way older than gen z and figured out a long time ago that unless a reply is absolutely necessary, just staying quiet and staring will get a transactional conversation to it's point and over much quicker.

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                            Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

                            Yeah, right.

                            I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

                            Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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                            One time I spelled my last name for almost an entire minute without being interrupted. This consisted of me saying random letters at a medium pace throwing in an occasional number or random sound. Everything was great until they hung up but their patience was impressive.

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                              Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

                              Yeah, right.

                              I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

                              Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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                              I'm pretty sure these scam calls are because the phone companies don't care enough to build better systems. We just all accept a shitty world because Verizon can't be bothered.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Great news everyone! I've just been offered a position to remotely train an AI and I can make up to $6000 a day!

                                Yeah, right.

                                I'm in the middle of a conversation with someone who randomly instant messaged me. I like to play dumb with these people and then occasionally throw some obscure questions at them and watch them squirm, or just toss subtle insults in my replies.

                                Anyone else get a kick out of messing with these scammers? Any particular shenanigans you like to throw at them, out any good stories that have come from it?

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                                I get a lot of SEO spam at work. I usually reply to them that they are not on the first page of Google and then a bit of creativity.

                                "Is that why your services are cheap?"

                                "We will be proceeding with someone competent"

                                Or simply "isn't that funny"

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                                • seathru@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                                  Also, the burden of initiating conversation should be on the active caller side, not on the passice receiver

                                  As an active caller, unless there is a ton of background noise, I may or may not get any indication that the person I'm calling has actually picked up. So I'm just going to sit there until they say something or hang up.

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                                  Ahh, fair enough, I always can tell when somebody picked up because the timely beeps stop (and also somehow I know that the silence from the background is different from the silence before it)

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