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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • Y [email protected]

    Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.

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    It's really interesting when you think about that.

    In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.

    Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

    I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.

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      what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

      "oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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      • P [email protected]

        Ah the laziness to not even set up an account that needs it. I didn't consider that. Was more thinking of current users meeting the resistance.

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        I tend to agree with you in that most people are too addicted to the convenience. But yeah, Balaquina does make a good point. After all, a commonly cited reason as for why the Fediverse won't rival mainstream sites is that making an account is more complex. Even then, it's just choosing an instance, which isn't that hard, it's just more complicated in comparison to, say, Reddit or Twitter. So following the same logic, it very well could backfire if Spotify raises the barrier of entry (or barrier of continuous entry, for those who already have accounts that they will have to verify).

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          Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.

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          How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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            How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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            He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)

            Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers

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              How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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              A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region).
              And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.

              Plus, you won't be at risk of spending money you don't have, and it doesn't negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.

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                He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)

                Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers

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                I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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                  I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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                    I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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                    Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.

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                      ..........genuinely trying to figure out how this relates to the topic at hand.

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                      The age control of pointless when it comes to protecting the children.

                      But also this

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                        Thank you for letting us know. I'll be sure to use this information to my best.

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                        The internet is based on this underlying trust. You are a true custodian!

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                          I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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                          Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                            That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.

                            When I was a kid there weren't all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.

                            So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback

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                            This.

                            But also this

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                              Jokes on them. My m4a library reaches 1000's easily

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                              Thousands of bytes!

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                                I saw a post saying /r/period required an age check.

                                They're gonna censor as much as they can with this.

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                                Ah, yes. As we all know, periods start at 18, when you're a legal adult. It's illegal to have periods before then

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                                  Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands

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                                  You're right and I'd go a bit further: It's none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

                                  Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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                                    Do it! I challenge you!
                                    People nowdays won't drop an every day thing just like that.

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                                      I know so many people who are so ride-or-die for never having to manage the file space for their own music library and they don't seem particularly less stressed.

                                      I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

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                                      me basically

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                                        Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.

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                                        Besides that, credit cards (and chipless debit cards) are unsecure? That receiving credit cards payments costs more in terms of administration costs?

                                        That credit cards are a system designed for consumerism (you see this especially in the US) and that people who grew up with credit cards being the default/more common payment method are often worse with money?

                                        There is a reason why you can only own credit cards if you are an adult, but you can own chipped debit cards earlier.

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                                          Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                                          You can probably get a pirate hat online for a few bucks. And there are plenty of discoverability systems not based on integration with a subscription service.

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