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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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    I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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      I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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      Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.

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        ..........genuinely trying to figure out how this relates to the topic at hand.

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        The age control of pointless when it comes to protecting the children.

        But also this

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          Thank you for letting us know. I'll be sure to use this information to my best.

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          The internet is based on this underlying trust. You are a true custodian!

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            I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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            Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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              That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.

              When I was a kid there weren't all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.

              So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback

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              This.

              But also this

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                Jokes on them. My m4a library reaches 1000's easily

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                Thousands of bytes!

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                  I saw a post saying /r/period required an age check.

                  They're gonna censor as much as they can with this.

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                  Ah, yes. As we all know, periods start at 18, when you're a legal adult. It's illegal to have periods before then

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                    Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands

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                    You're right and I'd go a bit further: It's none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

                    Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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                      Do it! I challenge you!
                      People nowdays won't drop an every day thing just like that.

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                      • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                        I know so many people who are so ride-or-die for never having to manage the file space for their own music library and they don't seem particularly less stressed.

                        I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

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                        me basically

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                          Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.

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                          Besides that, credit cards (and chipless debit cards) are unsecure? That receiving credit cards payments costs more in terms of administration costs?

                          That credit cards are a system designed for consumerism (you see this especially in the US) and that people who grew up with credit cards being the default/more common payment method are often worse with money?

                          There is a reason why you can only own credit cards if you are an adult, but you can own chipped debit cards earlier.

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                            Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                            You can probably get a pirate hat online for a few bucks. And there are plenty of discoverability systems not based on integration with a subscription service.

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                              It's really interesting when you think about that.

                              In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.

                              Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

                              I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.

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                              You just reminded me: A while back there was this slew of articles coming out of the tech press saying MP3 was now dead.

                              And why did they say that? Because the last Fraunhofer Patent on an MP3 related invention ran out.

                              Instead of reporting the format was now fully free, those idiots thought that meant it was now dead 😂

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                              • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                                it really isn't though. I don't really know where you live or how your local economy is organized but where I'm at people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn't make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations since we are literally a resource that's being exploited in real time for far much more than whatever artists would lose if we all stole.

                                .sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too.

                                here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another. but I hope you continue to have the life where you can engage with your economy in such a good intentioned way. I miss back when I felt I could do that too.

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                                people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn’t make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations

                                This is such an "I'm 12 and a rebel" position to take...

                                Sure, corporate greed is a cancer, there's zero doubt about that.

                                But these corporation also create jobs, make it possible for many people to survive. In terms of media streaming corpos SO MANY people/bands were allowed to have a career thanks to people just stumbling upon them.

                                Should they be getting paid more? Absolutely. Should the corpos handling the hardware, infrastructure, AND software be also paid? If you don't believe that, you're just naive or ignorant. Or both.

                                sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too

                                Or the French Qobuz.

                                here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another

                                Be the change you want to see. Instead of going stomping feet and stealing candy, go to the store that you feel you can morally support. Hard to do IRL, but online - sky is the limit. Use European services, those that pay artists (Qobuz pays around 5 times more than Spotify to rights holders), buy directly from artists on Bandcamp, etc., etc.

                                Piracy is literally the worst solution here because you're taking without giving. Any "fight the corpo!" banner here is just extreme naivete because the artist will starve MUCH quicker than the corp.

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                                  Sex on drugs is awesome…

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                                  Is being high without the approval of your partner okay?

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                                    I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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                                    Source for this?

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                                      You're right and I'd go a bit further: It's none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

                                      Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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                                      The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.

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                                        It's really interesting when you think about that.

                                        In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.

                                        Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

                                        I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.

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                                        Opus is far better, but with MP3's there's been plenty of hardware players only working with that format. Also Opus is new, before it was Vorbis which was kinda as good as MP3 but far less popular.

                                        And yes, MP3 is very "good enough", like JPEG.

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                                          I just use spot-dl to download my music.

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