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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • P [email protected]

    Sex on drugs is awesome…

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    Is being high without the approval of your partner okay?

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      I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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      Source for this?

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        You're right and I'd go a bit further: It's none of their business what your age even is, they need to know only one bit for their legal duties, over or under age of majority.

        Basically what is really needed is a certificate of majority digitally signed by the government bound to some identifier, email address or full name. All this uploading faces or ID card scans is ridiculous.

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        The invasiveness is the point. Age gating explicit content is just the excuse.

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          It's really interesting when you think about that.

          In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.

          Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

          I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.

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          Opus is far better, but with MP3's there's been plenty of hardware players only working with that format. Also Opus is new, before it was Vorbis which was kinda as good as MP3 but far less popular.

          And yes, MP3 is very "good enough", like JPEG.

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            I just use spot-dl to download my music.

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            • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

              people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn’t make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations

              This is such an "I'm 12 and a rebel" position to take...

              Sure, corporate greed is a cancer, there's zero doubt about that.

              But these corporation also create jobs, make it possible for many people to survive. In terms of media streaming corpos SO MANY people/bands were allowed to have a career thanks to people just stumbling upon them.

              Should they be getting paid more? Absolutely. Should the corpos handling the hardware, infrastructure, AND software be also paid? If you don't believe that, you're just naive or ignorant. Or both.

              sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too

              Or the French Qobuz.

              here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another

              Be the change you want to see. Instead of going stomping feet and stealing candy, go to the store that you feel you can morally support. Hard to do IRL, but online - sky is the limit. Use European services, those that pay artists (Qobuz pays around 5 times more than Spotify to rights holders), buy directly from artists on Bandcamp, etc., etc.

              Piracy is literally the worst solution here because you're taking without giving. Any "fight the corpo!" banner here is just extreme naivete because the artist will starve MUCH quicker than the corp.

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              yeeesh. I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you than having somebody to verbally spar with. this is reductive and overall pretty naive to the actual experience of being in the workforce or trying to consume ethically.

              instead of shouldering the responsibility of being your debate partner, I'm going to bow out and bid you a good life πŸ‘ perhaps somebody else here would like to take turns quote tweeting and making character assessments with you.

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              • omniman@piefed.zipO [email protected]

                Spotify was shit anyway use yt music

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                won't they suffer the same fate?

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                  Buy and store your own music. HDTracks and 7Digital both sell high quality DRM free downloads, or you can just swing by your local Walmart or Dollar Store and grab some CDs to rip.

                  Or you could go sailing, that's always an option...

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                  • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                    yeeesh. I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you than having somebody to verbally spar with. this is reductive and overall pretty naive to the actual experience of being in the workforce or trying to consume ethically.

                    instead of shouldering the responsibility of being your debate partner, I'm going to bow out and bid you a good life πŸ‘ perhaps somebody else here would like to take turns quote tweeting and making character assessments with you.

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                    "I want to have my publicly stated opinion, but it's not allowed to be challenged or questioned in any way" πŸ™„

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                      "I want to have my publicly stated opinion, but it's not allowed to be challenged or questioned in any way" πŸ™„

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                      you're right. not by a certain type of internet person. nothing personal, but the shame of being a fragile baby is actually worth that boundary and there are other better interactions for us both to go have

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                        Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                        yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-quality 3 --audio-format ogg

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                          Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                          I am trying the following services the next few months:
                          Tidal, deezer, qobuz and pirating

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                            Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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                            Soundcloud lets you play any song you want at any time, even on the free tier, and when you ask it to play a playlist, it only plays songs on the playlist.

                            You can have recommendations from an algorithm if you choose, but it's encouraged rather than enforced.

                            There are a lot more independent artists on it, and fewer big labels, or at least it feels that way because it doesn't seem to prioritise big labels over some person I've never heard of.

                            Spotify has an annoy-users-until-they-pay model. If you deliberately piss me off, you're not getting any of my money. Soundcloud just has ads.

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                              yt-dlp --extract-audio --audio-quality 3 --audio-format ogg

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                              Fails sometimes, I've had issues downloading many musics, and it doesn't have recommendations and stuff

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                              • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                                I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

                                Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.

                                It's convenient.

                                If you don't like Spotify's new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.

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                                I think if you send like a dollar to everyone on your playlist, it would end up being like 100 times more than they get from the system.

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                                  You can probably get a pirate hat online for a few bucks. And there are plenty of discoverability systems not based on integration with a subscription service.

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                                  I'd love something nicely automated

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                                    I am trying the following services the next few months:
                                    Tidal, deezer, qobuz and pirating

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                                    keep me updated!

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                                      yeeesh. I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you than having somebody to verbally spar with. this is reductive and overall pretty naive to the actual experience of being in the workforce or trying to consume ethically.

                                      instead of shouldering the responsibility of being your debate partner, I'm going to bow out and bid you a good life πŸ‘ perhaps somebody else here would like to take turns quote tweeting and making character assessments with you.

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                                      I realize now that getting artists paid is obviously way less important to you

                                      That's a very interesting take considering I'm against piracy and pro direct purchases from bands. Please, do explain how you ended up at that conclusion.

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                                        Soundcloud lets you play any song you want at any time, even on the free tier, and when you ask it to play a playlist, it only plays songs on the playlist.

                                        You can have recommendations from an algorithm if you choose, but it's encouraged rather than enforced.

                                        There are a lot more independent artists on it, and fewer big labels, or at least it feels that way because it doesn't seem to prioritise big labels over some person I've never heard of.

                                        Spotify has an annoy-users-until-they-pay model. If you deliberately piss me off, you're not getting any of my money. Soundcloud just has ads.

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                                        I like the random recommendations from time to time

                                        I'm a bit afraid that their algorithm is shit

                                        to be fair at this point I'm mostly on youtube music because it allows playing youtube videos as well, which sometimes is the only way of playing some musics

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                                          LOL 'Spotify fans' buch of losers

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