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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • P [email protected]

    Seriously, fuck Spotify and anyone else using that error-prone, intrusive, insecure bullshit.

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    You can say a lot of Spotify and of Apple, but the iOS app of Spotify is basically bug free and has been bug free for more than a decade now for me. The webclient has been buggy for me though.

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    • J [email protected]

      Personally I could never get into the whole Spotify and Pandora thing. I want to listen to what I want to listen to and when I want to listen to it, without ridiculous restrictions and rules. YouTube has honestly been the far better choice for music for me.

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      Pandora is sadly not available in NL and if I saw it correctly Pandora is also America which does mean that it will turn to shit somewhere in the future.

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        I'm returning to car boot sales to buy cubic meters of CDs.
        That, and BandCamp.

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          I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government's doing.

          And soon, this shit will come to every country. They're all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.

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          • E [email protected]

            Do you have any other good alternative to recommend? Nice quality, not too much tracking, low/fair price, nice recommendation algorithm, has lots of musics...

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            Unfortunately most of the major players are involved in some sort of evilness as far as I am aware. Spotify/Google/Apple are all pretty unethical companies. Personally, I have made the decision to cut out the middle man and sail the seven seas while also supporting the artists I like by being a vinyl wanker and going to gigs.

            As for streaming services (I am very happy to be corrected here because I am not certain) AFAIK both tidal and qobuz are good alternatives. Qobuz is based in France so your data will be safer but Tidal is a bit cheaper.

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            • S [email protected]

              Flac files contain orders of magnitude more data. As for the listening experience it's only ever going to be as good as the speakers at the other end. You'll also need a wired connection to said speakers in order to avoid some compression over Bluetooth. (Unless there's some newfangled lossless BT protocol that I'm unaware of.)

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              That makes sense. Thanks.

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              • E [email protected]

                won't they suffer the same fate?

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                For now yt music is what new Spotify was , but when one goes down the other cums and dominate

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                • P [email protected]

                  The space it takes up is negligible in the modern era of cheap SSDs (and even cheaper hard drives).

                  The main benefit is not in being able to hear a difference from 320Kbps mp3 (I know I sure can't), but knowing that you can re-encode the file as many times as you want, without any quality loss (assuming you're going from lossless to lossless, of course). Or create an mp3 from the flac file at any time, with the same quality as a ripped CD.

                  So basically FLAC is great if you produce/edit/re-encode your music files often. If you don't do any of that (and have no plans to future-proof your music collection), then 320Kbps MP3 is more than adequate for your needs.

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                  My concerns with space mostly deals with my cell phone but you make a lot of great point of being able to convert Flac for any use case. Thank you for your input.

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                    What do you think of Qobuz? From what I've seen, it's got more stuff than bandcamp (at least from my library).
                    It seems to pay the artists well too.

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                      It is better, but it depends on the audio for the difference. Also, it would probably be hard to hear the difference playing over a phones speakers. The weakest link in the chain is always the problem you notice the most. Having a good setup for amp/speakers and you can hear the difference. Using Bluetooth earbuds to mow the lawn, it doesn’t matter. Sitting in my living room on my nice stereo, I notice.

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                      I have Sennheiser HD 25 I bought 15 years ago. I play music through my Pixel 5a with a headphone jack and my iMac.

                      Is this good enough to be able to tell? I have no idea what devices have a good DAC or not.

                      Thank you for your input.

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                        Go to Opus 128 kbps. About the same as MP3 320 or better.

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                        Thanks for the suggestion but it would drive me nuts either to convert all my music or to have several different files. Getting MP3s is easier.

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                        • synae@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                          Why would you use the Ai dj to feed you songs, when the normal daily mixes, daylist, etc are giving you the same songs without the fake personality injected between them? I literally do not understand. I'm open to your thoughts - it's just that it seems like an alien perspective.

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                          It gives you a general mix and exposes you to new things that are unrelated to things you've listened to in the past. I listen to a lot of punk and ska, and the AI DJ serves up random pop and things I otherwise would never hear.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            This is cool if you’re okay with low fidelity music.

                            After years of lossless and headphones to distinguish, this sounds like fingernails on a chalk board.

                            It’s akin to using a tape deck to aux adapter in an old car or recording a tape off of an old boombox radio lol. I’d rather listen to nothing.

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                            I believe you so this is a genuine question: did you ever test your kbps threshold for being able to distinguish from lossless?

                            I remember in the MP3 and Winamp days, I was convinced I could detect anything below 192 kbps. Obviously depends on the content, and I’m implying 44 kHz minimum.

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                            • spacecadet@feddit.nlS [email protected]

                              I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government's doing.

                              And soon, this shit will come to every country. They're all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.

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                              Its not like every industrie can somehow lobby every consumer right away when someone wants to make a new law... oh wait they do...

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                                Thanks for the suggestion but it would drive me nuts either to convert all my music or to have several different files. Getting MP3s is easier.

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                                Yes, I meant in case you have a library of FLACs. In that case it wouldn't be too problematic cause, well, it's just a script recursing your library, encoding from FLAC to Opus and if succeeded, removing FLAC files.

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                                  This age-verification bullshit is a fine example of how governments represent their rulers, not their citizens.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    What do you think of Qobuz? From what I've seen, it's got more stuff than bandcamp (at least from my library).
                                    It seems to pay the artists well too.

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                                    I just use Pandora for radio and youtube for specific songs.

                                    Use Nicotine+ to download music for free.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      This is cool if you’re okay with low fidelity music.

                                      After years of lossless and headphones to distinguish, this sounds like fingernails on a chalk board.

                                      It’s akin to using a tape deck to aux adapter in an old car or recording a tape off of an old boombox radio lol. I’d rather listen to nothing.

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                                      You can download FLACs using Nicotine+.

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                                      • modernrisk@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                                        Not the one who mentioned it but I was curious about this as well and found this;

                                        1. Spotify boycott: Artists leave ‘garbage hole’ platform after CEO invests in AI weapons.

                                        2. Spotify CEO investments $700m in AI drone weapons company, as artists call for boycott.

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                                        Wow, $700m!? So this is why spotify is priced the way that it is!

                                        Useful idiots kept telling me it's so they can keep the lights on and put their kids through college, lmao.

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                                        • W [email protected]

                                          I believe you so this is a genuine question: did you ever test your kbps threshold for being able to distinguish from lossless?

                                          I remember in the MP3 and Winamp days, I was convinced I could detect anything below 192 kbps. Obviously depends on the content, and I’m implying 44 kHz minimum.

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                                          Never ran any tests here but the difference is so stark that I never really considered it a need.

                                          Kinda like when I switched from SoundCloud to Apple Music. I couldn’t go back to listening to the songs I had in my SC library because it was just noticeably worse.

                                          I’m sure there are ways to rip high fi YouTube audio but the basic options I used in the past yielded results worse than avg SoundCloud quality.

                                          Will say it’s been a few years since trying and I never had any paid for YouTube subscription, don’t even have an account. So, while it may be acceptable, I just never had a need and if I wanted to rip music, I’d be torrenting .flac files, not ripping .mp3s from YouTube

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