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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • tarknassus@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    All my CD's got ripped (and re-ripped) to mp3 in increasing bitrates as storage increased. Bandcamp is where almost all my musicians release anyway, and I've got over a thousand albums through them, happy in the knowledge I support the artists in a fairly direct way.

    Sure, I've still got an Apple Music sub (which sucks at times because licensing means a compilation gets split into several albums when whatever deal happens in the background expires). But I'll easily find new music, grab it and give it a go, and if I like it enough I'll dig them out on bandcamp. At some point I'm gonna quit that platform.

    Planning to get a modern mp3 player to go offline with my music at some point. Or maybe rebuild the old iPod and put Rockbox on it and hook it up to my linux desktop.

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    I found it was well worth ripping to flac securely using EAC (no idea what the modern setup is).
    As then I knew I had a perfect copy to make whatever MP3 I wanted in the future from.

    Nowadays, I convert everything to V0 for portable use, but who knows what the future may hold.

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      You should already be doing that anyways with the phantom artists scandal, thousands of fake artists made with AI so Spotify doesn't have to pay real people.

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        Latest Spotify crackdowns on revanced apps and a very recent GrayJay plugin issues made me look into Spotify cracking scene. I found an app that works. But for how long?

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        After they killed spotube, people are going back to the old hacked Spotify, but since it's not open it's way more risky, and maybe that's the intent, to make people scared of using them.

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          as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash

          of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free

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          This exactly. Pirating is still preventing the artists from getting paid for their work. Choose to buy albums from companies like Bandcamp over just simply stealing their work.

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            as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash

            of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free

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            not in a lossless format?

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              The worst was watching porn on spotify...

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              Yeah, like wtf, there’s even more soft core porn in YouTube.

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                YouTube music won’t play in the background though

                It does for me though? Unless you don't pay I guess? On android you can patch this with revanced, or use custom players

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                I don't pay for music unless I buy the track or album.

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                  YouTube music won’t play in the background though

                  It does for me though? Unless you don't pay I guess? On android you can patch this with revanced, or use custom players

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                  What's revanced? I'm not especially keen to give Google my money either. They fall into the category of businesses that have way too much money and power already.

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                    Welcome back 🏴‍☠️🦜

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                      What's revanced? I'm not especially keen to give Google my money either. They fall into the category of businesses that have way too much money and power already.

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                      https://revanced.app/

                      It’s basically a patcher app to apply some FOSS changes to your regular apps (ex: modify the YouTube app to add custom features, remove ads, add background play, bypass some other…)

                      I believe they have patches for YouTube music to remove ads and add background playback for non subscribers

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                        as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash

                        of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free

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                        Don't forget to tell them to go to the shows!!

                        Musicians are real people who very often hold live performances in high-population locations, you can see them directly with your eyeballs, hear them directly with your hearholes, and physically hand them actual cash with your flesh and blood hands!

                        Edit - To the people complaining about ticket company charges: You need to get into your local music scene and the +95% of bands out there who aren't big enough to play venues that have ticket company contracts. There is a world of music out there completely free of that system and you're neglecting it.

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                          Should never have left it behind to be honest.

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                          People sometimes don't believe me when I tell them I've literally never used Spotify.

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                            people like having their stuff.

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                            When you lease access to information, you literally don't have any stuff.

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                            • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                              Ngl, right now I'm endevouring to acquire more music in digital file format rather than streaming right now. Spotify is great, especially when your looking for individual songs that you'll only listen to a handful of times, and for discovering music, but once you lose access to it you're pretty fucked.

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                              I use Tidal, which pays artists even better

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                                Don't threaten, just do it!

                                I don't get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.

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                                I was dragging my feet because I really liked the algorithmic features. As much as I hate "AI" being jammed into everything these days, I really liked their DJ feature, and the "crate a playlist from a prompt" was a lot of fun to play with!

                                My favorite generated playlist was "Determined music for poopwalking home from Taco Bell"

                                That being said, they've been corrupting their music exploration tools with corporate interest for a while, so it's been becoming less desirable as a result

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                                  Like other medias before, internet probably has reached a need for some harder control. I'm not talking about porn, I'm talking about disinformation, bots and soon AI.

                                  Not sure which is the best way but I'll not give any id or credit card to any randim site in order to see their content.

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                                  I agree we need to get rid of all the bullshit you mentioned - but I don't think giving up our anonymity or more gated communities (like facebook, twitter, instgram and all those fucked up places) are the solution.

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                                    You aren't wrong, it is the government's ham fisted and poorly thought out legislation... I fact the last government's that this one inexplicably pushed on with despite it not being anything like a priority for the electorate. I'm frankly shocked at how many unforced errors this government is making given how "not being as rubbish as the last lot" was not a high bar to clear.

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                                      Don't forget to tell them to go to the shows!!

                                      Musicians are real people who very often hold live performances in high-population locations, you can see them directly with your eyeballs, hear them directly with your hearholes, and physically hand them actual cash with your flesh and blood hands!

                                      Edit - To the people complaining about ticket company charges: You need to get into your local music scene and the +95% of bands out there who aren't big enough to play venues that have ticket company contracts. There is a world of music out there completely free of that system and you're neglecting it.

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                                      music to my ears

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                                      • ckmnstr@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        Don't threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.

                                        The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.

                                        Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.

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                                        The news can't easily report on users actually returning to piracy; who would admit to it? And how would you get data on it? Much easier to truthfully report on users who talk about returning to piracy.

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                                          I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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                                          You've got to be 18 to be able to have a credit card.

                                          At that point someone else has verified your details for them, a bank (who are generally considered to be accurate about most things)

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