Dutch government on brink of collapse after Wilders' far-right party quits | Reuters
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Admittedly I don’t know much about the actual workings of the asylum process.
However, I have no doubt whatsoever that the primary goal of Wilders is to attain power by whatever (non-violent, for as far as we know now) means necessary. One of the things Wilders immediately tried to do in this cabinet, through his asylum minister Faber, was sideline the chamber by declaring the framed asylum situation an emergency. This was just copying Wilders’ good friend Orbán, who has been able to rule by decree using emergency laws set into motion during covid.
Luckily, this didn’t work. Further, the Dutch political system works in such a way that absolute majorities are pretty much ruled out, always requiring cooperation with other parties. The biggest danger is parties like the VVD taking over PVV talking points and moving ever more to the right.
It should be good fun if proper parties all start doing populist stuff to win votes and once they form a cabinet by majority just knock every issue out of the park in the first year
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As was stated by another commenter, the VVD already wasn't willing to work with the PVV but Yeșilgöz threw that overboard because they lost so badly in the polls she was looking for a last resort to at least get a seat at the table.
It's not unlike what the PvdA and D66 have done ever since Rutte-I. It's actually kind of interesting that CDA has never said anything like this. At least not in a memorable way.
Yeah exactly, and this is a surefire way to make her and the rest of the VVD regret that. Presumably they'll remember the lesson this time, at least for the foreseeable future.
(I do believe CDA has also consistently said they won't form a coalition with PVV ever since Rutte I, but don't quote me on that.)
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It is always the same tactic:
- If in opposition be as loud and obnoxious as you can, have the less far right parties implement your policies as you rise in the polls.
- Rise even more in the polls as a result of your policies being implemented and the public discourse becoming more and more far right and get into a government coalition.
- Blow up the coalition and suffer a bit in the polls.
- Quickly recover in the years to come by repeating step one, just in a more right wing society
- Rinse and repeat until you get absolute power.
Look at Austria, Poland, Hungary...
Fascists profit both from being in opposition, thanks to their less far-right enablers and they profit from a dysfunctional government in the long run.
It’s really interesting how this doesn’t work for the left precisely because left opposition doesn’t get its voice amplified or covered in media while facists do.
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Come on Netherlands, take out the trash and show us the way.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Unfortunately the trash is still leading in the polls, even after kicking down the government yet again (he has done this before, all because he's a major xenofobe)
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I like how they are the only party you can vote on in all levels of government, including Europe. Even if they only get 1/2/3 seats next election, I don't see them going away any time soon.
They had three last election, and their three MPs have been very visible in debates.
I really hope they get five this election.
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It’s really interesting how this doesn’t work for the left precisely because left opposition doesn’t get its voice amplified or covered in media while facists do.
Might be because blatant lies market better than ugly truths
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Unfortunately the trash is still leading in the polls, even after kicking down the government yet again (he has done this before, all because he's a major xenofobe)
yes, but leading here doesn't mean much, given how small the biggest party is in actual numbers. All it takes is for the reasonable parts of society to exclude these folks from coalitions. They're not big enough that they can't be ignored. It's worked for many years, lets return to that.
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yes, but leading here doesn't mean much, given how small the biggest party is in actual numbers. All it takes is for the reasonable parts of society to exclude these folks from coalitions. They're not big enough that they can't be ignored. It's worked for many years, lets return to that.
And no one's going to trust him to lead now.
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It's not a popular opinion in the Netherlands but I would like Volt to be bigger. If I read about their perfect Netherlands, I really can get behind that. The thing is that they do describe a utopia with a lot of impossible things that are going to cost a lot of money. But hey, we gotta start somewhere, right?
Go Volt!
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Unfortunately the trash is still leading in the polls, even after kicking down the government yet again (he has done this before, all because he's a major xenofobe)
I think it's too early to say how this will impact the polls. A lot of people are still processing what happened. Blowing up the government over immigration didn't work out great for the VVD (liberal right), but perhaps Wilders' party will fare better.
It was the protest vote that won the PVV (Wilders' party) the last election and the BBB (farmers' party) the Eerste Kamer (Senate) elections before that. Now that the PVV and the BBB have been in the government and achieved basically nothing, those voters are more likely to vote for left-leaning parties or stay home.
If Wilders can push the narrative that the rest of the coalition forced his hand by blocking his immigration policies, perhaps he can win the election. However, considering that even the FvD was criticizing Wilders today that might be a tall order, even in the alt-right bubble.
If Groen Links/PVDA (green/labour alliance) can convince protest voters that the solution to their problems is to tax the rich and invest that money in social programs and environmental policies, maybe they can win the elections.
(Winning the elections in this context means becoming the largest party. Nobody ever gets an absolute majority.)
