Cloudflare announces AI Labyrinth, which uses AI-generated content to confuse and waste the resources of AI Crawlers and bots that ignore “no crawl” directives.

[aviationeast@lemmy.world]

You're not wrong.

[xeroxcool@lemmy.world]

Will this further fuck up the inaccurate nature of AI results? While I'm rooting against shitty AI usage, the general population is still trusting it and making results worse will, most likely, make people believe even more wrong stuff.

[ladel@feddit.uk]

The article says it's not poisoning the AI data, only providing valid facts. The scraper still gets content, just not the content it was aiming for.

[lily33@lemm.ee]

while allowing legitimate users and verified crawlers to browse normally.

What is a "verified crawler" though? What I worry about is, is it only big companies like Google that are allowed to have them now?

[relativearea1@sh.itjust.works]

this is some fucking stupid situation, we somewhat got a faster internet and these bots messing each other are hugging the bandwidth.

[deebster@infosec.pub]

So they rewrote Nepenthes (or Iocaine,
Spigot, Django-llm-poison, Quixotic, Konterfai, Caddy-defender, plus inevitably some Rust versions)

[wingiee@lemm.ee]

I assume a crawler which adheres to robots.txt

[Guest]

If you're dumb enough and care little enough about the truth, I'm not really going to try coming at you with rationality and sense. I'm down to do an accelerationism here. fuck it. burn it down.

remember; these companies all run at a loss. if we can hold them off for a while, they'll stop getting so much investment.

[Guest]

and the data for the LLM is now salted with procedural garbage. it's great!

[Guest]

I dunno. I don't find any sympathy with any of these fuckers though. this is not a generally useful technology, it is not something the average person ever needs to see, and honestly, just fuck em. Fuck anyone messing with open source to engorge the garbage dispenser.

[Guest]

nothing can be improved while capitalism or authority exist; all improvement will be seized and used to oppress.

[einlander@lemmy.world]

The problem I see with poisoning the data is the AI's being trained for law enforcement hallucinating false facts used to arrest and convict people.

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

Ok, I now need a screensaver that I can tie to a cloudflare instance that visualizes the generated "maze" and a bot's attempts to get out.

[ininewcrow@lemmy.ca]

They should program the actions and reactions of each system to actual battle bots and then televise the event for our entertainment.

[doodledup@lemmy.world]

Lost on Lemmy?

[irateanteater@sh.itjust.works]

That's not really relevant here. This is more of a "genie is out of the bottle and now we have to learn how to deal with it situation". The idea and technology of bots and AI training already exists. There's no socioeconomic system that is going to magically make that go away.

[Guest]

no, responding to a comment about exactly that thing.

[ininewcrow@lemmy.ca]

It's what I've been saying about technology for the past decade or two .... we've hit an upper limit to our technological development ... that limit is on individual human greed where small groups of people or massively wealthy people hinder or delay any further development because they're always trying to find ways to make money off it, prevent others from making money off it, monopolize an area or section of society .... capitalism is literally our world's bottleneck and it's being choked off by an oddly shaped gold bar at this point.

[Guest]

I don't need it to not exist. I need it to stay the fuck out of everyone's lives unless they work in a lab of some kind.

see, it's not actually useful. it's a tomogatchi. do you remember those? no, you fucking don't.

[Guest]

that's the entire point of laws, though, and it was already being used for that.

giving the laws better law stuff will not improve them. the law is malevolent. you cannot fix it by offering to help.