What websites search function do you hate most?
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First of all google went to shit, but duckduckgo has been disappointing me too.
I moved to searx and it was decent but confused me a bit and not always reliable.
But the single biggest problem on the internet for me... The yt search bar. My god I fucking hate it with a passion. It just doesn't do what its supposed to, its not searching anything at all. Ive literally tried and written every word of the video title plus the channel name and it didnt show up bc I put onen word in the wrong spot.
Its not usable. 90% of the time I'm getting random Indian videos with nothing to do woth my search, shorts (which I blocked in revanced so thats fine now) and people also watch or recommended videos from my user profile.
I switched to Kagi a year ago. It's free for first hundred searches so you can see what it's like. If you like it you can pay for it. I know paying for a search Engine is very niche, but I use my search Engine for both work and personal, it's a tool and frankly you've already hit the nail on the the head with everything else just being shit. Between rubbish results and poor privacy, I really am happy that I have Kagi as an option. The price per year ain't bad for how much I use it and I'm happy my money is going to devs rather that aren't selling my data
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Not the person you replied to, but: my own on my server. Con: I have to do the administration. Pro: I started using it, noted my preferred default settings and just set those as a server side default where possible. Also I have full control over which engines are enabled per default and which are available generally.
Took me a bit to tweak it, though.
That's really cool. Very daunting a task to go through with
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There are 2 instances that use anti bot features that I could find. That is https://search.canine.tools/ and https://search.fredix.xyz/
Personally, the fastest and most reliable in my opinion are https://priv.au/ and https://searx.tiekoetter.com/ I used to use Tiekoetter's instance for nearly a year before I hosted my own. Otherwise I would recommend checking here: https://searx.space/
With that said, I still didn't answer your question, because I am hosting my own instance, but I would not recommend joining unless you really want to. I'm going to move it to central Europe, it's currently hosted in Romania.
Self hosters impress me. Thanks for the recommendations, I've been confused about what to try for a while
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First of all google went to shit, but duckduckgo has been disappointing me too.
I moved to searx and it was decent but confused me a bit and not always reliable.
But the single biggest problem on the internet for me... The yt search bar. My god I fucking hate it with a passion. It just doesn't do what its supposed to, its not searching anything at all. Ive literally tried and written every word of the video title plus the channel name and it didnt show up bc I put onen word in the wrong spot.
Its not usable. 90% of the time I'm getting random Indian videos with nothing to do woth my search, shorts (which I blocked in revanced so thats fine now) and people also watch or recommended videos from my user profile.
Discourse
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In addition to what you mentioned, another really annoying thing about Youtube's search is that it sometimes gives totally different results from one minute to the next. You can search for something, then type those exact same words just a few seconds later, and you get a completely different list of videos. So if you ever do get a list of good results, you need to leave that browser tab alone and open a new one to keep those results "safe."
And even though you typed the exact title of the video you are searching for, it will never be the first result...
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First of all google went to shit, but duckduckgo has been disappointing me too.
I moved to searx and it was decent but confused me a bit and not always reliable.
But the single biggest problem on the internet for me... The yt search bar. My god I fucking hate it with a passion. It just doesn't do what its supposed to, its not searching anything at all. Ive literally tried and written every word of the video title plus the channel name and it didnt show up bc I put onen word in the wrong spot.
Its not usable. 90% of the time I'm getting random Indian videos with nothing to do woth my search, shorts (which I blocked in revanced so thats fine now) and people also watch or recommended videos from my user profile.
Anyone using Mojeek?
Their about page: https://www.mojeek.com/about/
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I am confused as to how do they make a good service worse?
In the case of google they purposely made it worse so that people spent more time on their site rather than other sites. This means they see more ads from google as opposed to ads on another website. They've just doubled down on this with AI summaries, too. Now they just blatantly take content from websites so you don't have to go to the website that made it at all.
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Anyone using Mojeek?
Their about page: https://www.mojeek.com/about/
Heard of it, havent yet tried it
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Damn, is it actually Eivith? Thanks for all the support help in the Matrix chat
Yes, im in the Matrix chat - thanks!
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That's really cool. Very daunting a task to go through with
Assuming you do have a place to host it (even at home on your PC, or an old PC, not necessarily reachable from the internet), and assuming you know a bit about docker, it's quite easy actually.
Where it all started for me:
https://github.com/searxng/searxng-dockerNote that the example above in the beginner variant uses Caddy as a webserver which - by default - assumes you're running it on a server that can be publicly reached from the internet and won't start up correctly otherwise - e.g. at home - unless you change some config.
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Assuming you do have a place to host it (even at home on your PC, or an old PC, not necessarily reachable from the internet), and assuming you know a bit about docker, it's quite easy actually.
Where it all started for me:
https://github.com/searxng/searxng-dockerNote that the example above in the beginner variant uses Caddy as a webserver which - by default - assumes you're running it on a server that can be publicly reached from the internet and won't start up correctly otherwise - e.g. at home - unless you change some config.
I'm the least techy person on Lemmy. Couldn't possibly do any of that. But I really appreciate the effort you put in for the advice. Thanks!
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There are 2 instances that use anti bot features that I could find. That is https://search.canine.tools/ and https://search.fredix.xyz/
Personally, the fastest and most reliable in my opinion are https://priv.au/ and https://searx.tiekoetter.com/ I used to use Tiekoetter's instance for nearly a year before I hosted my own. Otherwise I would recommend checking here: https://searx.space/
With that said, I still didn't answer your question, because I am hosting my own instance, but I would not recommend joining unless you really want to. I'm going to move it to central Europe, it's currently hosted in Romania.
Just tried priv.au and like it better than my current instance. Just moved. Thanks for the recommendation
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In the case of google they purposely made it worse so that people spent more time on their site rather than other sites. This means they see more ads from google as opposed to ads on another website. They've just doubled down on this with AI summaries, too. Now they just blatantly take content from websites so you don't have to go to the website that made it at all.
I agree with the summaries part. It does reduce the amount of traffic for websites.
I am not sure if it was intentional to make the search bad. Search was getting worse even before AI. And why would you make your customers consider another product?
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Github. The
/key is usually a shortcut in Firefox (and many other software) for search. But they hijacked it to their search-field that requires you to be logged in anyway. So you can only use ctrl+f on their site.For websearch I've switched to Kagi and it does exactly what I need, nothing more, nothing less.
In general, anything that hijacks search shortcuts.
Oh you wanted to search for text on this one page? Let me show you a search bar for the whole website instead, with a search that's strictly worse than the search engine that you came from in the first place.
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First of all google went to shit, but duckduckgo has been disappointing me too.
I moved to searx and it was decent but confused me a bit and not always reliable.
But the single biggest problem on the internet for me... The yt search bar. My god I fucking hate it with a passion. It just doesn't do what its supposed to, its not searching anything at all. Ive literally tried and written every word of the video title plus the channel name and it didnt show up bc I put onen word in the wrong spot.
Its not usable. 90% of the time I'm getting random Indian videos with nothing to do woth my search, shorts (which I blocked in revanced so thats fine now) and people also watch or recommended videos from my user profile.
When I used Brave the image search was extremely bad. I bet it still is
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I agree with the summaries part. It does reduce the amount of traffic for websites.
I am not sure if it was intentional to make the search bad. Search was getting worse even before AI. And why would you make your customers consider another product?
I'm not enough of an expert to explain it better, but I remember reading about a guy who came on board with google, and took over search. He had an initiative to keep people on google longer. That's my memory of it at least.
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I switched to Kagi a year ago. It's free for first hundred searches so you can see what it's like. If you like it you can pay for it. I know paying for a search Engine is very niche, but I use my search Engine for both work and personal, it's a tool and frankly you've already hit the nail on the the head with everything else just being shit. Between rubbish results and poor privacy, I really am happy that I have Kagi as an option. The price per year ain't bad for how much I use it and I'm happy my money is going to devs rather that aren't selling my data
I also like Kagi and I think it's the best search engine nowadays. I'm just sad because it's based in the US.
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Anyone using Mojeek?
Their about page: https://www.mojeek.com/about/
I've tried but their search results in my language were bad.
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I've tried but their search results in my language were bad.
Sorry to hear that. Do you get better results with SearXNG?
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First of all google went to shit, but duckduckgo has been disappointing me too.
I moved to searx and it was decent but confused me a bit and not always reliable.
But the single biggest problem on the internet for me... The yt search bar. My god I fucking hate it with a passion. It just doesn't do what its supposed to, its not searching anything at all. Ive literally tried and written every word of the video title plus the channel name and it didnt show up bc I put onen word in the wrong spot.
Its not usable. 90% of the time I'm getting random Indian videos with nothing to do woth my search, shorts (which I blocked in revanced so thats fine now) and people also watch or recommended videos from my user profile.
I vehemently hate when any website hijacks my web browser's ctrl+f or forward slash keyboard shortcuts for searching the page.
It's completely insane to me that javascript can override web browsers' builtin keyboard shortcuts.
