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UK food and drink exports to the EU down 34% since Brexit

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      Brexit, the gift that keeps giving

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            brits pls join! brexit is history now, funny history but still. xD

            we need to go together against russia and china.
            maybe even the orange man xD

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              The result of letting people decide matters which are too complex to understand for the majority. Why wouldn't you let it to the politicians, you know, which were chosen by the people to do exactly that.

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                Oh no, how are we gonna get picked eggs?!

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                  Nice!

                  Where is this from?

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                    The result of letting people decide matters which are too complex to understand for the majority. Why wouldn't you let it to the politicians, you know, which were chosen by the people to do exactly that.

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                    Brexit was only complex because info wasn't delivered. Media failed hard.

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                      Isn't it fascinating that most of the time things happen exactly as expected?

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                        All jokes aside, them being outside is beneficial at the moment when we are hamstrung by bad actors they can stand alone to support Ukraine etc.

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                          All jokes aside, them being outside is beneficial at the moment when we are hamstrung by bad actors they can stand alone to support Ukraine etc.

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                          How so? There isn't a common defense policy in the EU that I know of, so any country is free to support Ukraine as much as they want, as far as I know. Happy to be corrected though.

                          I'm sure there are some brexit benefits somewhere, but I don't think this is it. What Orban is doing is stopping the EU doing something together, but he can't stop Denmark or Poland from supporting Ukraine if they wish to do so.

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                            Nice!

                            Where is this from?

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                            Simpsons, I forget the season/episode

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                              ONS figures paint a more complex picture:

                              https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindustryandtrade/internationaltrade/articles/recenttrendsinuktradevolumesandbalances/2010to2024

                              Some highlights:

                              UK export growth has become increasingly dominated by services since 2010, with goods exports increasing by just 7% in real terms, compared with services exports growing by 63% over the same period.

                              Most goods commodities have seen falls in exports but rises in imports since 2010; in contrast, most service types have seen an increase in both exports and imports.

                              Most goods commodities have seen falling exports to EU countries and increased exports to non-EU countries; however, most service types have seen higher exports to both the EU and non-EU countries.

                              And we sort of see that last point reflected in the article itself:

                              Global food export volumes increased by nearly 6% in 2024 compared with a year earlier, the FDF found, as the UK began to see the benefits of free trade agreements. In the first full year after the UK-Australia trade deal came into force, the value of UK exports to Australia increased by 9% to £429.5m in 2024.

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                                Brexit was only complex because info wasn't delivered. Media failed hard.

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                                And because it was a shit idea to begin with.

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                                  How so? There isn't a common defense policy in the EU that I know of, so any country is free to support Ukraine as much as they want, as far as I know. Happy to be corrected though.

                                  I'm sure there are some brexit benefits somewhere, but I don't think this is it. What Orban is doing is stopping the EU doing something together, but he can't stop Denmark or Poland from supporting Ukraine if they wish to do so.

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                                  The UK is not governed by EU regulations and as such has more flexibility in how they approach the frozen russian funds in their control. They are also not hamstrung in their implementation of sanctiona by the likes of the cowardly hungarians.

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                                    The UK is not governed by EU regulations and as such has more flexibility in how they approach the frozen russian funds in their control. They are also not hamstrung in their implementation of sanctiona by the likes of the cowardly hungarians.

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                                    Which country in the EU is hamstrung by Hungary? Other than Hungary?

                                    Also what is it that the UK now can do with Russian funds that the EU can't due to "EU regulations"? Genuinely curious as I don't know the answer and I don't get any obvious hints from searching.

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                                      Which country in the EU is hamstrung by Hungary? Other than Hungary?

                                      Also what is it that the UK now can do with Russian funds that the EU can't due to "EU regulations"? Genuinely curious as I don't know the answer and I don't get any obvious hints from searching.

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                                      Hungary is a bad actor acting on behalf of Russia in the EU. They have ran non credible elections and illegally used designated EU funding for vanity and personal projects.

                                      https://dailynewshungary.com/sanctions-hungary-eu-veto-russia/

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67724357

                                      https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-renews-russian-sanctions-after-deal-with-hungary/

                                      https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/03/07/hungary-drifts-further-from-eu-consensus-on-ukraine-war/

                                      As for the funds there is no framework for the seizing of the frozen assets. The UK doesnt require anything from the EU to do it themselves, they hold the assets and they dont need permission. But somewhere like Ireland would require EU level sign off to seie funds or see it challenged in court.

                                      I should hope your curiosity is genuine, the tone seems agressive.

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                                        Hungary is a bad actor acting on behalf of Russia in the EU. They have ran non credible elections and illegally used designated EU funding for vanity and personal projects.

                                        https://dailynewshungary.com/sanctions-hungary-eu-veto-russia/

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67724357

                                        https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-renews-russian-sanctions-after-deal-with-hungary/

                                        https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/03/07/hungary-drifts-further-from-eu-consensus-on-ukraine-war/

                                        As for the funds there is no framework for the seizing of the frozen assets. The UK doesnt require anything from the EU to do it themselves, they hold the assets and they dont need permission. But somewhere like Ireland would require EU level sign off to seie funds or see it challenged in court.

                                        I should hope your curiosity is genuine, the tone seems agressive.

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                                        If my tone sounded agressive I apologise. English isn't my native language.

                                        I'll read through the links you sent. Thanks.

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                                          If my tone sounded agressive I apologise. English isn't my native language.

                                          I'll read through the links you sent. Thanks.

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                                          No problem, it makes sense and I apologise. There are people who look fr more detail in bad faith as if any claim is bogus and any proof is insufficient.

                                          I appreciate you taking the time and speaking in the only language I know.

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