THIS always annoys me.
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A friend in the field had told me that they preemptively make donations to offset their taxes. Let say it’s 1million dollars. they put up 1 million dollars of their own money, then they gather donations at the till towards this charity to pay themselves back for the money they spent.
Again just what I’ve heard.
I had a friend who once told me his brother discovered Alaska while riding in a hot air balloon. I wonder if we have the same friend.
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And who pays the cc fees? And do they have an agreement with the cc provider for a kickback? There are so many hands involved with simple monetary transactions most people wouldn't believe it.
It’s a good question. The flat fee is already covered by your item purchase, so at worst it would be 2.5-3.5% of the donation amount, which isn’t terrible.
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Your friend is wrong, or the company he works for is committing fraud.
company committing fraud
Well yes, it's a corporation.
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I had a friend who once told me his brother discovered Alaska while riding in a hot air balloon. I wonder if we have the same friend.
Possibly, is his name Jeff?
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THIS IS PURELY A METHOD OF AVOIDING TAXES.Never donate to charities through one of these big companies. If you want to donate, then do so directly.
Anything else just helps the corporation wash their image by gathering money and then donating to whichever cause.
They do so and also take all of that money off of their taxable requirement.Edit: was wrong.
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Why do they never offer to match donations? I'd probably consider it if they did.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Why do they never offer to match donations?
Why would they bother? It costs them next to nothing to stick an ad on the screen. But matching donations would be far more expensive.
Besides "matching donations" has always been a scam. These agreements inevitably amount to "Person/Org X agrees to donate up to $X in matching funds". But $X is so small that its trivial to hit. And I've never heard of someone failing to get the whole amount regardless of the donation rate. It's just an excuse for the folks running the donation drive to scream "PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Your refusal to donate an extra $1 is costing us $10!!!! Why are you being so stingy!!!"
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I wasn't going to comment initially but, thinking again, I will.
According to what I was once explained, the scheme runs like this.
a) organization X starts a fund raising campaign
This alone can be deducted as an expense, as any amount of hours can be attributed to planning, preparing, etc, the entire thing.
As this time as no profitable end, it can be deducted.
b) You donate. But now it's their money.
Your money is siphoned to a separate bank account or just tallied and earmarked as for charitable purpouses but this does not mean the entity needs to hand it over immediatly.
That money is held within the company's vaults, figure of expression, and, as such, counts towards the overall financial assets of the company.
It still needs to be handed to the end recipient but until it does it can be used to leverage loans and be invested into short term investment products, like overnight deposits (with hundreds of thousands or even millions it does gain interest overnight).
c) the money gets donated eventually but not by you
Eventually, all that money gets handed over but it is now their money, not yours. And as such, they get the tax deduction. And, again, with hundreds of thousands to millions in donations, the deduction gets very high.
This deduction, on your expense, goes towards clearing more of their profits.
Want to do something good?
Volunteer. Help your neighbour. With your own efforts, actions and work. Don't hand over money.
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That's not how it works, at all. Businesses can't claim donations they collect on behalf of a charity as a deduction.
They can lie and misreport. And if nobody in the state/federal bureaucracy follow up, they get away with it.
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I had a friend who once told me his brother discovered Alaska while riding in a hot air balloon. I wonder if we have the same friend.
"Had a friend at a business report that the business was casually doing fraud to lower their tax liability."
"Oh yeah? Well I had a friend who reported he is a talking monkey who lives in Mars."
"Damn, both of these stories sound equally far-fetched and unbelievable."
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Why do they never offer to match donations? I'd probably consider it if they did.
Someone correct me, but I understood that donations serve as a tax write-off.
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Because they use your donations to pay for their parties
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Remember that none of the people working there have any say in the matter either, and are most likely struggling themselves. The system was made broken.
It's not the people , it's the corporations
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You should delete your misinformation.
Yeah they won't. Lemmy is very lax when dealing with published falsehoods which are in support of an ideologically needed narrative.
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I never take out my frustration on the employees, but one time I did mutter, I'm still waiting for someone.... any one ....to give me something for free.
Nothing is free.
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Someone correct me, but I understood that donations serve as a tax write-off.
So they don't care about the donations as much as their own savings.Since you asked, the tax write off stuff is basically a myth. If you donate, let's say $20, then they have to mark down $20 of additional income, raising their tax burden by $20 x 21% (federal, plus whatever state tax there is). Then, when they hand over the money to the charity, they get to take a $20 deduction (not a credit) which means their tax burden is lowered by $20 x 21% (again plus any state tax). So comes out even in the end. The deduction basically says, hey, remember the $20 I put down as income? Don't tax me on that because I used it for a tax-exempt purpose. They report it as income, then report the donation. Nothing fishy there.
However, depending on how long they hold onto that money, it's possible to use the money to make other money, like investing it or even just sticking it in a savings account where it would get a little interest. And with enough donations, that might add up.
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You should delete your misinformation.
No, they should leave it up as it is immediately debunked in the next comment, which is good.
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I wasn't going to comment initially but, thinking again, I will.
According to what I was once explained, the scheme runs like this.
a) organization X starts a fund raising campaign
This alone can be deducted as an expense, as any amount of hours can be attributed to planning, preparing, etc, the entire thing.
As this time as no profitable end, it can be deducted.
b) You donate. But now it's their money.
Your money is siphoned to a separate bank account or just tallied and earmarked as for charitable purpouses but this does not mean the entity needs to hand it over immediatly.
That money is held within the company's vaults, figure of expression, and, as such, counts towards the overall financial assets of the company.
It still needs to be handed to the end recipient but until it does it can be used to leverage loans and be invested into short term investment products, like overnight deposits (with hundreds of thousands or even millions it does gain interest overnight).
c) the money gets donated eventually but not by you
Eventually, all that money gets handed over but it is now their money, not yours. And as such, they get the tax deduction. And, again, with hundreds of thousands to millions in donations, the deduction gets very high.
This deduction, on your expense, goes towards clearing more of their profits.
Want to do something good?
Volunteer. Help your neighbour. With your own efforts, actions and work. Don't hand over money.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]And as such, they get the tax deduction.
This part, at least, is not correct. (explanation at apnews.com, alternate snopes link)
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I wasn't going to comment initially but, thinking again, I will.
According to what I was once explained, the scheme runs like this.
a) organization X starts a fund raising campaign
This alone can be deducted as an expense, as any amount of hours can be attributed to planning, preparing, etc, the entire thing.
As this time as no profitable end, it can be deducted.
b) You donate. But now it's their money.
Your money is siphoned to a separate bank account or just tallied and earmarked as for charitable purpouses but this does not mean the entity needs to hand it over immediatly.
That money is held within the company's vaults, figure of expression, and, as such, counts towards the overall financial assets of the company.
It still needs to be handed to the end recipient but until it does it can be used to leverage loans and be invested into short term investment products, like overnight deposits (with hundreds of thousands or even millions it does gain interest overnight).
c) the money gets donated eventually but not by you
Eventually, all that money gets handed over but it is now their money, not yours. And as such, they get the tax deduction. And, again, with hundreds of thousands to millions in donations, the deduction gets very high.
This deduction, on your expense, goes towards clearing more of their profits.
Want to do something good?
Volunteer. Help your neighbour. With your own efforts, actions and work. Don't hand over money.
As mentioned in other comments - the tax deduction thing is not true. It is true, however, that they can ''donate' the funds to a charitable foundation that is run by the same people as the company (i.e. they are on the board of the charity as well as being C-suite execs of the company) thereby creating a slush fund disguised as charity that may only need to actually use 5% for charitable activities.
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I don't know. I don't know how high finance works, but a company who has the oportunity to take 1 dollar from every person is a big no for me. I do not care if they do donate the money or not, I don't do it because we let them carry that ridiculy amount of money, to the people that does know how high finance work. Maybe the money it is donate it, yea, but, what's next? I do not want to be rewarded, I wanna know if
my moneythe money of everyone was delivered as it should, that's all, and I don't think that a company uses the same time that spent to ask you for a dollar for letting you know that everything is fine. -
And as such, they get the tax deduction.
This part, at least, is not correct. (explanation at apnews.com, alternate snopes link)
I don't doubt your word. I paraphrased the explanation an accountant in my country (Portugal) gave me. It may work differently in other places and I sincerely hope so.
