Amazon accused of using algorithms to push warehouse workers to breaking point.
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
Me 8 years ago:
I'm absolutely not getting a job at amazon, or ups, or usps. I'm not taking a job where you don't have permission to pee. I'm a human being. I don't care if I'm the president of the united states giving a state of the union address live on tv. If I have to pee, I'd tell the camera "Hey America, go grab a snack or something. I'll be right back in like 2 minutes." Fuck it, if I gotta pee, that's just what I'm going to do. Fuck your profits for 3 minutes. I'M expelling waste.
And then my sister is like "it's not that bad."
Then me reading news 6 years ago that an amazon worker died of a heart attack and his coworkers didn't even stop to call 911.
My sister thinks I made that up.
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
You are not a human. You are a meat robot. Just something to be used up and replaced.
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You are not a human. You are a meat robot. Just something to be used up and replaced.
And they're terrified of all the childless cat ladies opting to not produce their next generation of laborer/consumer brood to be said replacement. Hence the crackdown on abortions and contraception and people who pair up in ways that cannot yield children. You can't have the infinite growth that capitalism demands if the number of producers and consumers goes down.
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Me 8 years ago:
I'm absolutely not getting a job at amazon, or ups, or usps. I'm not taking a job where you don't have permission to pee. I'm a human being. I don't care if I'm the president of the united states giving a state of the union address live on tv. If I have to pee, I'd tell the camera "Hey America, go grab a snack or something. I'll be right back in like 2 minutes." Fuck it, if I gotta pee, that's just what I'm going to do. Fuck your profits for 3 minutes. I'M expelling waste.
And then my sister is like "it's not that bad."
Then me reading news 6 years ago that an amazon worker died of a heart attack and his coworkers didn't even stop to call 911.
My sister thinks I made that up.
USPS is unionized. No cameras, Way less micro-management, and you can pee when you want to.
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USPS is unionized. No cameras, Way less micro-management, and you can pee when you want to.
Aren't some Amazon warehouses unionized too?
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Aren't some Amazon warehouses unionized too?
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
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You are not a human. You are a meat robot. Just something to be used up and replaced.
Negative. I am a meat Popsicle!
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
Amazon 101 work them until they break.
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Negative. I am a meat Popsicle!
It's gonna be hot Hot HOT!!
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USPS is unionized. No cameras, Way less micro-management, and you can pee when you want to.
USPS isn't all sunshine and rainbows. I know multiple regional managers and local district managers as well as post masters. It's a very tough demanding and long job.
A single delivery driver can deliver 630am till 1030pm and still not have all the mail out. While head quarters will deny adding drivers to routes or changing anything to ease the loads.
Don't get me started on mentioning package theft, insurance claims, and other related issues.
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Me 8 years ago:
I'm absolutely not getting a job at amazon, or ups, or usps. I'm not taking a job where you don't have permission to pee. I'm a human being. I don't care if I'm the president of the united states giving a state of the union address live on tv. If I have to pee, I'd tell the camera "Hey America, go grab a snack or something. I'll be right back in like 2 minutes." Fuck it, if I gotta pee, that's just what I'm going to do. Fuck your profits for 3 minutes. I'M expelling waste.
And then my sister is like "it's not that bad."
Then me reading news 6 years ago that an amazon worker died of a heart attack and his coworkers didn't even stop to call 911.
My sister thinks I made that up.
As someone who worked there for a year, the nice thing about Amazon is that managers don't harass you—even if you come in late every single day—and the 40 hours of personal time granted every week is great too. It's the kind of job where you can just put on your headphones and zone out, and never have to come in on days when you don't feel like it. Just call off in the app.
Still wouldn't recommend that anyone works there. Everything else about the job sucks.
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As someone who worked there for a year, the nice thing about Amazon is that managers don't harass you—even if you come in late every single day—and the 40 hours of personal time granted every week is great too. It's the kind of job where you can just put on your headphones and zone out, and never have to come in on days when you don't feel like it. Just call off in the app.
Still wouldn't recommend that anyone works there. Everything else about the job sucks.
As someone who worked there for a year
In the warehouse?
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As someone who worked there for a year, the nice thing about Amazon is that managers don't harass you—even if you come in late every single day—and the 40 hours of personal time granted every week is great too. It's the kind of job where you can just put on your headphones and zone out, and never have to come in on days when you don't feel like it. Just call off in the app.
Still wouldn't recommend that anyone works there. Everything else about the job sucks.
40 hours of personal time granted every week is great too
Wtf is this? You have 168 personal hours every week. It is not at the decision of your employer.
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Amazon has used tricks, algorithms, and surveillance to discourage warehouse employees from unionizing, according to a paper published in the journal Socius.
“Accused”? It couldn’t be more obvious.
It’s nothing new; I worked in a call center 15 years ago where the algorithms were designed to work them as hard as possible and steal commissions because they were too tired to pay attention. I should know because they told me to do that, I refused, and was fired for it.
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Me 8 years ago:
I'm absolutely not getting a job at amazon, or ups, or usps. I'm not taking a job where you don't have permission to pee. I'm a human being. I don't care if I'm the president of the united states giving a state of the union address live on tv. If I have to pee, I'd tell the camera "Hey America, go grab a snack or something. I'll be right back in like 2 minutes." Fuck it, if I gotta pee, that's just what I'm going to do. Fuck your profits for 3 minutes. I'M expelling waste.
And then my sister is like "it's not that bad."
Then me reading news 6 years ago that an amazon worker died of a heart attack and his coworkers didn't even stop to call 911.
My sister thinks I made that up.
It really is that bad though, I used to think I was insane when I worked customer service call centre roles and they’d say (like all places I worked), without laughing, that we should get there 15 minutes before our shift to load all our systems. So basically work 75 mins for free each week. Whilst at the same time they pay as little as legally required and monitor your toilet breaks about 9 mins a day.
So naturally I am against this and push back and they say you gotta do it. And I’m like like fuck I do bro I could leave this job now and get another one tomorrow. In the end I was ready to die on this hill so I go in 15 mins early and at the end of the day I log off 15 mins early to get my coat on. Suffice to say I was no longer required to log in early. Most people did it though.
Now to contrast this I am a software developer who has got lucky at a small company, tiny actually. They really care about the staff and the clients. I’m sick quite a lot more than the average person and I overthink things but I am told that WE come first we don’t live to work we work to live. Recently we all got pay rises and our hours reduced. There is no micro managing, no targets and no pressure. Only the pressure my stupid brain puts on myself.
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It really is that bad though, I used to think I was insane when I worked customer service call centre roles and they’d say (like all places I worked), without laughing, that we should get there 15 minutes before our shift to load all our systems. So basically work 75 mins for free each week. Whilst at the same time they pay as little as legally required and monitor your toilet breaks about 9 mins a day.
So naturally I am against this and push back and they say you gotta do it. And I’m like like fuck I do bro I could leave this job now and get another one tomorrow. In the end I was ready to die on this hill so I go in 15 mins early and at the end of the day I log off 15 mins early to get my coat on. Suffice to say I was no longer required to log in early. Most people did it though.
Now to contrast this I am a software developer who has got lucky at a small company, tiny actually. They really care about the staff and the clients. I’m sick quite a lot more than the average person and I overthink things but I am told that WE come first we don’t live to work we work to live. Recently we all got pay rises and our hours reduced. There is no micro managing, no targets and no pressure. Only the pressure my stupid brain puts on myself.
So uhhhhhh.....I'm not a software developer, but are you guys hiring? I don't know. I'll dress up in a clown suit and do unfunny things. Maybe I can mime a satire of what it's like working at other jobs. Like drinking coffee, looking exhausted, typing on a keyboard, looking exhausted, talking on the phone, looking exhausted, sorting through filing cabinets, hanging yourself with a noose......uh.....I mean......looking exhausted.
My point is, your job sounds amazing, and I want to work there even if I don't have any skills or qualifications. Let's make this happen.
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So uhhhhhh.....I'm not a software developer, but are you guys hiring? I don't know. I'll dress up in a clown suit and do unfunny things. Maybe I can mime a satire of what it's like working at other jobs. Like drinking coffee, looking exhausted, typing on a keyboard, looking exhausted, talking on the phone, looking exhausted, sorting through filing cabinets, hanging yourself with a noose......uh.....I mean......looking exhausted.
My point is, your job sounds amazing, and I want to work there even if I don't have any skills or qualifications. Let's make this happen.
Hey, if I was in charge I would hire you right now.
Whenever I talk about my job I have to stress so much that I am lucky af. I don’t believe I deserve to be where I am because frankly I was a mess at life until late thirties and made a mountain of poor life choices.
My point in this is to say that change is possible for anybody, given enough determination, a massive dose of luck and being in the right place to actually get my life on track. I am not special and I’m not particularly smart, just like solving problems.
If you’re interested I did a couple of coding boot camps and although I had a lot of experience from just making things for myself I believe anybody can up skill.
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Hey, if I was in charge I would hire you right now.
Whenever I talk about my job I have to stress so much that I am lucky af. I don’t believe I deserve to be where I am because frankly I was a mess at life until late thirties and made a mountain of poor life choices.
My point in this is to say that change is possible for anybody, given enough determination, a massive dose of luck and being in the right place to actually get my life on track. I am not special and I’m not particularly smart, just like solving problems.
If you’re interested I did a couple of coding boot camps and although I had a lot of experience from just making things for myself I believe anybody can up skill.
You deserve to be there or they wouldn't have hired you. You work with smart people who know their shit. They wouldn't have you there if you didn't contribute.
However remember that as soon as it starts to get bad jump ship or form a union. You only matter until that tiny company gets bought up by another larger company....like Amazon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Amazon
With the impending financial crisis expect there to be a lot of "consolidation" in the market.
