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Sci-fi and fantasy are at odds in Split Fiction, which makes no sense

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  • tja@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

    Fein the article:

    People might have a preference, sure, but that’s not what’s happening in Split Fiction; the game makes it seem like sci-fi writers think fantasy isn’t a form of legitimate artistic expression, and vice versa. It’s hard to imagine any fan of either genre today being that hardline about the other.

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    the game makes it seem like sci-fi writers

    What? No, it's just Mio. Still, the dialogue is somewhat tropey; I hope it stays ultimately better than ITT.

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      I feel that Sci-Fi and Fantasy are different. Especially enough to be seen as two different genres.

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      Depends on the sci-fi and depends on the Fantasy!

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      • mydarkesttimeline01@lemmynsfw.comM [email protected]

        See, I feel like both Sci-Fi and Fantasy have enough different that the should be sperate genres. I think the combining them is to the detriment of both. I can't tell you the amount of times I've given up looking for something new to watch because I click Sci-Fi and every listing is Lord of the Rings.

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        Isn't a ring which has an inbuilt GPS tracker sci-fi? 😛

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          I don't think the game wanted to paint an "unbridgeable gap" here, as the author says. The way Mio and Zoe get more into each other's stories is exactly the testament to the way this gap can be closed through a unique shared experience, and to the way one genre can enrich the other.

          I play Split Fiction with my girlfriend, and she is a fantasy fangirl, while I am very sci-fi, so the characters land just perfectly. And I can't help but notice that, as Mio and Zoe get more open-minded and try to look into the root of how those two preferences formed, me and my girlfriend also get more passionate for each other's interests.

          And that's one of the most powerful things about the game. It helps to deconstruct our notions and perceptions about both genres, and become more open to each other's vision.

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            The game looks fun, but I personally can not get into a world that switches between fantasy and sci-fi so much. The mix just isn't my thing. Magic and tech don't mix well in my head.

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              I feel that Sci-Fi and Fantasy are different. Especially enough to be seen as two different genres.

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              Tell that to everything I like, star trek is fantasy adjacent, star wars too, all of chinese fantasy (especially the movies) are technically fantasy but have so much stuff that works like scifi just using magic engines and shit, low magic matches epic scifi, its literally just is science driving the cool thing or is magic, its set dressing, it can be swapped. Harry potter can be the same story but with a scifi setting, idk what im even saying im rambling at this point.

              Imo scifi is under the umbrella of fantasy.

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                Isn't a ring which has an inbuilt GPS tracker sci-fi? 😛

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                Which gets to the crux of it. Unless you are reading REALLY hard sci-fi, most of the tech boils down to "a wizard did it".

                Like, the OT of Star Wars is 100% a fantasy series and it was only the EU (and later the PT) that tried to explain the tech and make it more sci-fi. Similarly, a lot of the litrpg writers think Sanderson is a softy and go ridiculously hard on explaining their magic systems in greater detail than actual textbooks.

                And, at the end of the day, they are all just different shades of speculative fiction that primarily use magic/tech/magitech as a plot device to explore the impact on society of whatever metaphor the big bad is.

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                  Tell that to everything I like, star trek is fantasy adjacent, star wars too, all of chinese fantasy (especially the movies) are technically fantasy but have so much stuff that works like scifi just using magic engines and shit, low magic matches epic scifi, its literally just is science driving the cool thing or is magic, its set dressing, it can be swapped. Harry potter can be the same story but with a scifi setting, idk what im even saying im rambling at this point.

                  Imo scifi is under the umbrella of fantasy.

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                  Have you considered that everything you like is just some level of sci-fantasy (an existing genre[-fusion])?

                  They are both under the umbrella of "speculative fiction" but they go in different directions.

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                    Have you considered that everything you like is just some level of sci-fantasy (an existing genre[-fusion])?

                    They are both under the umbrella of "speculative fiction" but they go in different directions.

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                    Yeah, stuff like venture bros, tom strong, etc. with science heroes, next to fantasy stuff, shows how its pretty much the same stuff just different devices, science fiction explanations are as realistic as fantasy explanations for how things function, its all bs and not real science typically either way, I love hard magic where they explain it like its science and theres a deep logic to the world and how everything works. Like brandon sanderson stuff

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                    • mydarkesttimeline01@lemmynsfw.comM [email protected]

                      I guess I'm the odd one out then. I'm a huge Sci-Fi fan. Ender's Game still stands as my favorite book after all these years. But I'm not too crazy about fantasy. I've bounced off of books, shows, and movies that my friends and family loved. They just seemed to be mediocre stories with fantasy paint on it and people who like Wizards were able to gloss over the holes.

                      It's not unheard of for people to not be interested in the other genre. But those people are outnumbered by consumers who just want the new thing.

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                      Check out Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh.
                      Ender's Game was my favorite book for many years but I can't recommend Card's books any more.
                      Luckily, Some Desperate Glory ticks all the boxes and then some.

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