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Canada won’t become the 51st US state – but could it join the EU?

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  • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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    Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

    “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

    Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

    What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

    While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

    I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

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    • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

      Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

      “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

      Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

      What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

      While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

      I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

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      That would be absolutely wild ngl

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      • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

        Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

        “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

        Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

        What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

        While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

        I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

        the_che_banana@beehaw.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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        I like this idea.

        Australia can come too.

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        • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

          Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

          “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

          Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

          What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

          While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

          I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

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          Can we then rename the USA to "Northern America leftovers nobody wants to ally with"? NALNWtAW. Exactly the name Tramponia deserves.

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          • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

            Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

            “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

            Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

            What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

            While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

            I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

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            The EU won't be allowed to expand so deep into the US sphere of influence. Not saying I'm against it, but it won't happen.

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            • the_che_banana@beehaw.orgT [email protected]

              I like this idea.

              Australia can come too.

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              If they qualify for one or two more Eurovisions, they can use that as a proof of European-ness I'd say.

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                The EU won't be allowed to expand so deep into the US sphere of influence. Not saying I'm against it, but it won't happen.

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                This is probably just a political play to show Canada has more cards than Trump thinks

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                  If they qualify for one or two more Eurovisions, they can use that as a proof of European-ness I'd say.

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                  I was gonna say, that MEP calling Canada the "most European country outside Europe" when they haven't even competed in Eurovision!

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                    This is probably just a political play to show Canada has more cards than Trump thinks

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                    Quite possibly, yes.

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                    • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                      I was gonna say, that MEP calling Canada the "most European country outside Europe" when they haven't even competed in Eurovision!

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                      Céline Dion did one. Not for Canada, though.

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                        The EU won't be allowed to expand so deep into the US sphere of influence. Not saying I'm against it, but it won't happen.

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                        "You want Greenland? Fuck you, we're taking Canada."

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                          This is probably just a political play to show Canada has more cards than Trump thinks

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                          The guy who can manage to run casinos into the ground? I'm not sure he knows what cards are.

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                          • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

                            Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

                            “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

                            Streit had long imagined Canada as a sort of paradise, home to dense forests that course with wide, rushing rivers. But after Donald Trump returned to power, launching much of the world into a trade war and turning his back on America’s traditional allies, Streit began to cast the northern country in a new light.

                            What he saw was a relatively unexplored relationship, one that could prove mutually beneficial as the world grapples with rapidly reshaping global dynamics. “Canadians have seen their trust in the US undermined, just as we have in Europe, following President Trump’s actions,” he said. “We need to strengthen the ties that bind us to our friends.”

                            While I get the rationale, I can't help but think that if this currently aspirational idea actually takes hold, the net result would be the militarization of our northern border.

                            I can't really see Van der Leyen approving such an expansion, especially given it would bring a Commonwealth territory into the EU post-Brexit.

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                            I'd be hesitant to give up monetary sovereignty to another organizing body.

                            That highly shackles the amount of fiscal policy space a federal government can use.

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                              I'd be hesitant to give up monetary sovereignty to another organizing body.

                              That highly shackles the amount of fiscal policy space a federal government can use.

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                              Being in the EU is not the same as giving up local currency. It's not like the UK abandoned sterling during its foray into the union.

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                                Can we then rename the USA to "Northern America leftovers nobody wants to ally with"? NALNWtAW. Exactly the name Tramponia deserves.

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                                "Fourth Reich" works as well.

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                                • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

                                  The guy who can manage to run casinos into the ground? I'm not sure he knows what cards are.

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                                  Well he sure likes to talk about who holds them and who doesn't

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                                    Well he sure likes to talk about who holds them and who doesn't

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                                    Sure, but understanding what cards are involves reading. He heard the idiom once and decided it sounded good.

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                                      The guy who can manage to run casinos into the ground? I'm not sure he knows what cards are.

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                                      Kinda ironic for someone with that last name.

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                                      • powderhorn@beehaw.orgP [email protected]

                                        Being in the EU is not the same as giving up local currency. It's not like the UK abandoned sterling during its foray into the union.

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                                        Since the adoption of the Euro, the EU rules require new entrants to eventually adopt it. Exceptions like for the UK and Sweden were made at the time of the negotiations before the adoption of those rules. If Canada were to join now, we would have to adopt the euro.

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                                          Since the adoption of the Euro, the EU rules require new entrants to eventually adopt it. Exceptions like for the UK and Sweden were made at the time of the negotiations before the adoption of those rules. If Canada were to join now, we would have to adopt the euro.

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                                          On the flipside there's overseas territories which don't use the Euro, and there's been plenty of talk of a multi-speed Europe. Single market won't be negotiable, though, so there's going to be inspections at the border keeping refrigerated eggs and chlorinated chickens out.

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