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  • Y [email protected]

    Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.

    Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.

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    amazing example of the person described in the post!

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    • redstrider@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive

      i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      that is absolutely the coolest thing I have seen in technology in years

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        If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.

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        I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps

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        • W [email protected]

          If you want to take this one step further, it's the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.

          Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them "left or right", "red or blue", "my team your team" then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.

          Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.

          Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse... Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.

          "No Kings" isn't realistically actionable.

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          Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable.

          This is disputable. They have had very different approaches. I'm convinced this talking point is conjured up by Russia to sow dissent.

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            It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.

            Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.

            AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.

            To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:

            Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.

            Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.

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            Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)

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            • A [email protected]

              Went with an Acer. Best keyboard, tiny screen borders for a fairly compact 16” screen, 32G, 2TB, 3.1 lb …. I forget which CPU, we looked at so many.

              The big question is battery life, and we decided to risk it. For a claimed 9.5 hours battery life when new, will it still get through a realistic full day of classes for the next four years. Hopefully

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              I've had good experiences with Acer with previous laptops, so that was probably a good choice. Best of luck to your kid!

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              • W [email protected]

                You're correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, "AI" in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a "computer," even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage's difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of "computer." But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn't even a "computer," even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.

                In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, "AI" is a synonym for "LLM."

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                That's a great point and you are right, most people don't know/don't care about the technical differences

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                • Y [email protected]

                  Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.

                  Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.

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                  I dont evento understand your point. His are both things related?

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                    Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable.

                    This is disputable. They have had very different approaches. I'm convinced this talking point is conjured up by Russia to sow dissent.

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                    ... Did they both involve sending weapons to Israel?

                    This is exactly my point. You've made it better than I ever could have.

                    The minute you buy into identity politics, you'll reject what is front of your own eyes because you fail to seperate an issue from the whole. If "they" are wrong on the "issue", then you'll diminish the "issue" to protect the whole, thus protecting your identity.

                    Biden and the world and the current Democrats are absolutely fucked the dog on Israel. That doesn't mean the Democrat turd sandwich isn't still better than the giant douche, but there is no godly reason that one can't evaluate issues honestly.

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                      It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.

                      Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.

                      AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.

                      To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:

                      Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.

                      Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.

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                      Ah, that false quote is beautiful. It's like watching an effortless right hook delivered squarely onto the jaw of whoever Rocky Balboa is fighting.

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                        That's absolute bullshit. I spent years trying to get good at drawing. I bought lots of books on how to draw and was never able to make anything that didn't look like it was made by a 5 year old. I even learned Photoshop and Illustrator cause I thought that those would be a gateway for me to get better. Spoilers, it didn't.

                        So go fuck yourself with your "everyone can draw" horseshit argument. No, not everyone can draw. And it doesn't just take "working hard at it till you're good". You have to have talent. I fucking don't, as well as lots of others out there.

                        And I said in my comment as well as many other places, these AI drawing sites need to compensate the people who's talent they, at this point in time, have stolen. Just because I think the technology has purpose doesn't mean I don't think that there are problems with it.

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                        You know, Ben Shapiro is a failed hollywood screenwriter. Maybe you can jump on Fox News and become a panelist complaining that M&Ms can't wear sexy shoes anymore or something, too.

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                          Art can be made out of literally anything.

                          Such as LLMs.

                          Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it.

                          You don't think there's any thought put into AI art by the creators?

                          Art is art, it doesn't matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.

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                          You don't think there's any thought put into AI art by the creators?

                          I think it is vanishingly small, if present at all. Like watching somebody artistically pick which youtube video to watch while eating.

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                          • W [email protected]

                            ... Did they both involve sending weapons to Israel?

                            This is exactly my point. You've made it better than I ever could have.

                            The minute you buy into identity politics, you'll reject what is front of your own eyes because you fail to seperate an issue from the whole. If "they" are wrong on the "issue", then you'll diminish the "issue" to protect the whole, thus protecting your identity.

                            Biden and the world and the current Democrats are absolutely fucked the dog on Israel. That doesn't mean the Democrat turd sandwich isn't still better than the giant douche, but there is no godly reason that one can't evaluate issues honestly.

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                            US foreign policy involves US companies sending weapons to Isreal and the US gov providing aid. Its been that way for over 50 years. Once the war broke out for the first 6 months there was no reason that should change, the democrat policy during this time was to use the aid as leverage to constain isreal and they did. The republican policy as been to use the US's position on the world stage to empower isreal. These are two completely different approaches.

                            The dems got multiple ceasefires and pushed for a reasonable end to the conflict while republicans broke ceasefires and changed the deal to be so one sided there is near 0 chance gaza accepts.

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                            • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                              Exactly, it's downright comical how well OP called it.

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                              Thanks commenter! That's why I posted it. I knew this would happen.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop!

                                You’re kinda proving the point of post. That’s literally what everyone here thinks of when someone says Ai

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                                Because it's true.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  If you take offense at what I said, that implies you believe something else. Believing something else other than the truth makes you either dumb or brainwashed or both. See how easy it is to apply logic when you're not letting a mindless computer do your "thinking"?!

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                                  More attacks, more insults.

                                  You are adamant to continue proving my point.

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                                    Yes, keep using language that implies amuch greater ability than it has. Keep using marketing terms that these corporations want you to use. Yes, keep simping for the rich people trying to make employees obsolete. They definitely won't replace you as soon as "AI" is no longer a misnomer!

                                    Your ignorance only makes you pathetic.

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                                    And there go the insults and attacks. Just what I was talking about in the beginning: anti ai people are way more extremist, way more obnoxious. You don't even know where I stand, for you it's enough to know I'm not 110% on your side and that's enough to attack.

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                                      If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.

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                                      They use AI to translate the website, which is great, but the German looks awful at times.

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                                        Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop!

                                        Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it's hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.

                                        Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity

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                                        Well my iPhone 14 Pro gets really hot really quickly and the battery is comparable to a countdown app when I load a totally local LLM

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                                          I really don't think there is any useful generative or general AI.

                                          So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most "useful" AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.

                                          People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that's been kind of covered by the catch all term "algorithm". What most people understand as "the" algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn't a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.

                                          All that to say, the general public really doesn't need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn't care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.

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                                          There is ai used for enemys and video games and some for protein folding
                                          Thats the ones i mean with useful

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