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    AI only exacerbates an existing problem with tech; AI datacenters pollute and consume because datacenters pollute and consume

    a lot of things many people do online, including watching videos or playing online games, are super polluting. yet no one talks about this

    you don’t care about the environment, you care about AI

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      You can run AI off of renewable energies too.
      This isn't an issue of AI. It's an issue of capitalism.

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      You could do a lot of things, but that's not what is happening so here we are!

      Also, to be clear, "AI" is just a marketing term for LLM. You're describing it as a capitalism problem but it's a product of capitalism and they're using it to make more money for themselves while it uses things people created as source material with the power of fossil fuel.

      That is pretty fucked up.

      Sure, it could be powered by renewables and it could be used to benefit humanity, but could doesn't count for shit when it's also being powered by fossil fuels and used to manipulate and even kill people.

      Could and are: Two very different things.

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        That's what she said!

        ^I'm sorry^

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        "she" being a conservative woman talking about pronouns again

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          While you are correct that AI is a horrible source of greenhouse gas due to its insatiable need for power, I wouldn't call the people using it the make pictures "too lazy to learn Photoshop". Being able to draw is a talent not everyone has and it's kind of amazing to be able to make a picture you see in your mind without having the innate talent to do so. That being said, the people who have the talent who's art has been used to train these AI systems should be broadly compensated for their work being used in the AI models.

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            There are extremist on both sides. But at least the anti-AI group has environmental responsibility on their side.

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            • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

              You could do a lot of things, but that's not what is happening so here we are!

              Also, to be clear, "AI" is just a marketing term for LLM. You're describing it as a capitalism problem but it's a product of capitalism and they're using it to make more money for themselves while it uses things people created as source material with the power of fossil fuel.

              That is pretty fucked up.

              Sure, it could be powered by renewables and it could be used to benefit humanity, but could doesn't count for shit when it's also being powered by fossil fuels and used to manipulate and even kill people.

              Could and are: Two very different things.

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              Could is what should be. That is what we also should act according towards.

              Instead of attacking symptoms, attack the root cause. Which still is capitalism. Corpos will use energy that damages the environment because they will seek the most profits and least expenses under a market economy.

              LLMs and AI would still be developed under any other system. Capitalism doesn't invent things, all it invents are ways to commodify things.

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                Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.

                Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.

                AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.

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                  Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.

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                    That's what she said!

                    ^I'm sorry^

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                    ^I'm sorry^

                    No, you're not xD

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                    • ph3ra@lemmy.mlP [email protected]

                      I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time

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                      ai or pronouns

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                        I chat with ai whenever I don't have a friend to chat with. (a lot)

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                          Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop!

                          You’re kinda proving the point of post. That’s literally what everyone here thinks of when someone says Ai

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                            Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.

                            Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.

                            AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.

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                            One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.

                            It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.

                            "The left went too far with 'woke', but that doesn't mean we need to go too far in the other direction!"

                            No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It's insane that this even needs to be said.

                            It's fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.

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                              Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn't a fleshed out product yet it's being pushed into apps that don't need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn't intended for but it needs to be opt in.

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                                I really don't think there is any useful generative or general AI.

                                So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most "useful" AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.

                                People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that's been kind of covered by the catch all term "algorithm". What most people understand as "the" algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn't a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.

                                All that to say, the general public really doesn't need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn't care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.

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                                Exactly. I don't have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.

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                                  I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and environmental destruction that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.

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                                    How is AI a marketing term for LLM? Aren't LLMs neural networks, which is an AI technique?
                                    It sure bugs me how everyone suddenly started to use the word "AI" exclusively to refer to LLMs, but the term is not wrong either.

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                                      You must only be reading web forums like Lemmy/Reddit. I think society as a whole is very excited by the idea of AI.

                                      Companies everywhere have been racing to be the first to add AI to their products, for instance. Not just tech bro companies either. Everybody.

                                      Edit: so many downvotes and no comments. I see AI hype everywhere, it’s a fact. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, just that it isn’t limited to tech bros.

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                                      Companies hopping on a fad bandwagon doesn't mean that the public in general wants it.

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                                        One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.

                                        It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.

                                        "The left went too far with 'woke', but that doesn't mean we need to go too far in the other direction!"

                                        No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It's insane that this even needs to be said.

                                        It's fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.

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                                        If you want to take this one step further, it's the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.

                                        Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them "left or right", "red or blue", "my team your team" then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.

                                        Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.

                                        Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse... Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.

                                        "No Kings" isn't realistically actionable.

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                                          Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.

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