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Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

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  • G [email protected]

    Maybe the amount of Democrats that see Canada as an enemy is lower than the amount of Republicans that don't see Canada as an enemy. It's hard to tell from that graph.

    Additionally, the blue line seems to start ticking up around 2022. I don't remember if Trump was pushing anti Canada stuff back then, but if he wasn't, then it's probably due to something completely unrelated and possibly even reasonable.

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    Could be around when there were Canadian trumpers and the whole trucker protest thing.

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      Oh look, you can physically see the Democrat shift to the right on the chart.

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      Not that I disagree with the idea of Democrats shifting right, but it’s a very small shift supported by very few data points. The line probably wouldn’t have changed much with more data. OTOH, the Republican spike is way too much to be an outlier.

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        Ive spent a lot of time in the states and i can tell you unequivocally that all americans afe haddwired for fear. You are extremely jumpy and paranoid people when compared to more modern nations.

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        Fyi, I'm not actually American myself. I agree with you otherwise however.

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          Even democrats going up for canada huh? Fuck man it's hard not to just give up, it feels like there's just no hope for us.

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          Join the EU! We like you and our respect for you has only gone up (excluding pp)

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            Join the EU! We like you and our respect for you has only gone up (excluding pp)

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            Unfortunately you think I'm the wrong nationality, I'm american.

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            • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

              https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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              now do the same thing with Canadians about mericans . 90 degree upwards i'm guessing.

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              • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                There is a French saying that perfectly fits current situation :

                You don't need enemies when you have this kind of friends.

                Although I don't know if it's specifically French.

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                  Unfortunately you think I'm the wrong nationality, I'm american.

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                  We'll take any scientist, nurse and IT pro without a second thought.

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                  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                    https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                    What I find surprising is that it was decreasing before, what happened in 2018?

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                      We'll take any scientist, nurse and IT pro without a second thought.

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                      I'm the IT pro of my circle but that just means I do self hosting as a hobby and it work for the 8 person company I work at since nobody else knows jack, I have no formal post secondary education.

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                      • bogasse@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

                        What I find surprising is that it was decreasing before, what happened in 2018?

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                        Probably tariff
                        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs-canada-mexico-b2696606.html

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                        • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                          https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                          Are they fitting the curve on like 3 points for 24 and 25? I don't think it's untrue but why publish this with such a low-hanging fruit to delegitimize the argument

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                          • bogasse@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

                            There is a French saying that perfectly fits current situation :

                            You don't need enemies when you have this kind of friends.

                            Although I don't know if it's specifically French.

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                            In English it's "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

                            Apparently coined by an early 20th century comedian, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that origin.

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                              I'm the IT pro of my circle but that just means I do self hosting as a hobby and it work for the 8 person company I work at since nobody else knows jack, I have no formal post secondary education.

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                              Do you want to work and support yourself? Yes -> start looking for a job (Ireland and the Netherlands are best for you because of your language) No -> please do not move to us.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                There was a great chart that showed this sort of phenomenon, I think across a range of issues, but I can't find it. Can anybody help me out?

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                                I know which one you mean I think — a range of charts that showed how conservatives' principles changed a lot depending on which party was in power while liberals' stayed fairly consistent. I've just spent ages trying to find it too, thought it was on dataisbeautiful but my google-fu is also letting me down.

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                                • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                                  https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                                  I’m sorry from half of America

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                                    https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                                    Our allies are fine. I'm learning to dislike my countrymen. Not that there's a lot of new ground to cover on that subject...

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                                      I’m sorry from half of America

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                                      A third. There's a third in favor of the turd, a third is apathetic, and a third did something to stop the turd.

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                                        A third. There's a third in favor of the turd, a third is apathetic, and a third did something to stop the turd.

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                                        So two thirds are problematic.

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                                          I’m sorry from half of America

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                                          Yeah sux at this point I wish I could get my family out. I know tat if we must fight ww3 we want to be on the side of democracy

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