The "We Tried" Award
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They're still convinced they got cheated out of victory by liberals.
Yet another 'stabbed in the back' myth...
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Are there also shitterthoughts?
I have those right next to my shower thoughts.
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You're not wrong, but like, ouch.
They are wrong, for the premise is wrong. Being open about the trauma they suffered is no participation trophy. Being a veteran of a war is a burden and not an achievement.
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I never got a trophy for anything, but I did like the medal I got for my first wrestling win.. it wasn’t, like, any big thing, but we were against a specific school that has a good program, it was my first year, I was the only girl on the team.. and I won by techfall.
It was definitely a participation trophy of sorts, but it actually felt ok to get. It was engraved to read “for beating your [school] opponent, and first win”
We, as a team, lost to them. Badly.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Getting a tech for your first win, especially in a match where your team got crushed is a big deal, especially for a new athlete. I wouldn't call anything about that a participation trophy.
In fact, one of my proudest memories as a HS wrestler was losing by one in a dual meet against our rivals where the coaches asked me to wrestle up two weight classes and my goal was "don't get teched or pinned." I lost, but I did my part and the team won (so the inverse of your sitch). I would say that an individual win and team loss or an individual loss but team win are both worth celebrating. That's one of my favorite things about wrestling is that you can have a good day regardless of who the team is facing or how everyone else does.
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Vietnam hats aren't trophies. They're badges of survivors. They know they lost. They were fucked by our govt while they were there, they got their asses kicked and then came home to a population that didn't see them as heroes like previous soldiers has experienced. Everything about that war was a shit show and it's no surprise so many of those vets couldn't transition back into civilian life.
And many came back with serious health and mental problems too! I know I was married 2 Vietnam vets. The fought and suffered for their government.
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Getting a tech for your first win, especially in a match where your team got crushed is a big deal, especially for a new athlete. I wouldn't call anything about that a participation trophy.
In fact, one of my proudest memories as a HS wrestler was losing by one in a dual meet against our rivals where the coaches asked me to wrestle up two weight classes and my goal was "don't get teched or pinned." I lost, but I did my part and the team won (so the inverse of your sitch). I would say that an individual win and team loss or an individual loss but team win are both worth celebrating. That's one of my favorite things about wrestling is that you can have a good day regardless of who the team is facing or how everyone else does.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Thanks, that means a lot to me
I’ve definitely always viewed it as a participation trophy of sorts, but you’re right; my team was absolutely over the moon for me.I always liked wrestling for the same reason, it’s an individual sport with camaraderie. Two chances to feel like a winner! Did it for 6 years, was a good time.
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I feel like there's a meme to be made about trump wanting a peace prize, while bombing other countries, while hating participation trophies, but also thinking he deserves one just for being president ....
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Trophies were forced upon us. I didn’t even like the idea of getting a trophy if I won. I won, neat, I don’t need a gold-colored plastic guy hitting a baseball to help me remember that 2-1 game against another collection of school children.
I certainly didn’t need a wood cutout of me posing on home plate. It was tee-ball, I stopped playing after six months.
They expected me to treasure that bullshit too. Kept my seventh-place ribbons in a box for ten years until I threw them the fuck out
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They are wrong, for the premise is wrong. Being open about the trauma they suffered is no participation trophy. Being a veteran of a war is a burden and not an achievement.
"I raped and murdered innocent people I'm the victim"
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Trophies were forced upon us. I didn’t even like the idea of getting a trophy if I won. I won, neat, I don’t need a gold-colored plastic guy hitting a baseball to help me remember that 2-1 game against another collection of school children.
I certainly didn’t need a wood cutout of me posing on home plate. It was tee-ball, I stopped playing after six months.
It was tee-ball, I stopped playing after six months.
I played t-ball. I struck out in every at-bat ... in t-ball. Fortunately I excelled at defense: coach put me in right field and the other teams were so scared of me they never hit the ball there.
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It was never about the kids, it was about the boomer parents that got jealous seeing other kids with trophies around other petty boomer parents
And the boomer shrinks who were a bit too laser focused on self esteem during the 80s and 90s
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They expected me to treasure that bullshit too. Kept my seventh-place ribbons in a box for ten years until I threw them the fuck out
...i got honorable mention in the history fair in fourth grade; i think i still have the ribbon in a box...
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I feel like there's a meme to be made about trump wanting a peace prize, while bombing other countries, while hating participation trophies, but also thinking he deserves one just for being president ....
I mean Obama and Henry Kissenger got Nobel Peace Prizes.
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That applies to most conflicts since WWII. Name one since then we really won. Not that its the soldiers fault in any way.
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Vietnam hats aren't trophies. They're badges of survivors. They know they lost. They were fucked by our govt while they were there, they got their asses kicked and then came home to a population that didn't see them as heroes like previous soldiers has experienced. Everything about that war was a shit show and it's no surprise so many of those vets couldn't transition back into civilian life.
I know at least one who was very proud of his war crimes, and I do mean very specific things he did and told to me as a child. I hope they never take away his antipsychotics.
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"I raped and murdered innocent people I'm the victim"
If you see a vietnam vet and immediately think rapist you might have other issues.
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And the boomer shrinks who were a bit too laser focused on self esteem during the 80s and 90s
I am a worse person having been the focus of my schools mental health people. They cared so deeply for my self esteem, but couldn't see that hollow victories in the remedial track was making me miserable. They kept telling me that it didn't matter because I would be able to find employment this way. My only value was as a replaceable cog and they were confused why I was depressed.
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They're still convinced they got cheated out of victory by liberals.
I mean if you look at the restriction on targets you might come to that conclusion. The US restricted any airstrikes on railyards, airfields, SAM sites could only be targeted if they shot first, and anything in a 30mile radius around Hanoi. These restrictions were only removed 7 years into the war, and there were still restriction on the ground war and targets there. McNamara is directly responsible for these restrictions and the 57000 American lives that could have lived if we didn’t hanper our own warfighting at every turn.
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It was tee-ball, I stopped playing after six months.
I played t-ball. I struck out in every at-bat ... in t-ball. Fortunately I excelled at defense: coach put me in right field and the other teams were so scared of me they never hit the ball there.
I was the opposite. I could absolutely destroy the ball at bat, but I would literally sit in left field and pick grass.
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Vietnam hats aren't trophies. They're badges of survivors. They know they lost. They were fucked by our govt while they were there, they got their asses kicked and then came home to a population that didn't see them as heroes like previous soldiers has experienced. Everything about that war was a shit show and it's no surprise so many of those vets couldn't transition back into civilian life.
And yet they vote for a party and administration who would and will gleefully send people into the same situation again without hesitation.
