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Apparently, 12% of Technology Workers Believe that MacOS is based on Linux

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  • cosmiccleric@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    Do you spend a lot of time arguing with people over it?

    Allot more than I wish, I really try not to. Even today, I keep asking people to not rehash it, and lets just talk about the topic my comment was posted in. But for some strange reason people just won't let it go, and push to talk about it.

    ~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

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    Well like it or not, your footer is just a part of your comments, and so people are invited to respond however they wish when you post it on lemmy. If you don't like people making the same replies, you can simply stop posting the same content in every comment.

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      I remember a podcast I used to listen to a long time ago that argued that MS should just make a fork of the Linux kernel and just make the gui work like Windows. Better security and stability, and huge increase in user base with all the normal Linux users seeing it as viable alternative. I thought it was a brilliant idea. Well except Microsoft would likely have figured a way to kill Linux from the inside.

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      Except for the part where decades' worth of software no longer runs on Windows.

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        That is the literal opposite of what the world needs.

        Windows isn't a bad OS from a purely technical perspective. If Windows were released as FOSS, I would switch to Windows without hesitation.

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        The full Microsoft XP source code was leaked and is available for anyone on GitHub; not the same, I know, I've just always wondered why a community never formed to fork it

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          I don’t think it’s equivalent to sovereign citizens. OP is the author of their comment and therefore has the copyrights. As the author one can license their work as all rights reserved or other permissive licenses.

          OP chooses to license their work as Creative Commons.

          They’re not forcing you to accept the license, it’s your local government that enforces copyright.

          The reason why this might work on Lemmy but not on corporate Social media is that corporate social media often have terms of service that require you to give them ownership/rights/etc. Lemmy has no such ToC.

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          This would vary by instance. I don't see that lemmy.world specifies the terms for user content, which really should be fixed.

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            Are you sure it's not bad from a technical perspective? I saw a story from a former programmer talking about how changes would be made the to the interface in the new settings app that's trying to replace control panel and the shit was like a horror story.

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            You could keep the kernel tho while changing the gui

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              https://lemmy.world/post/24613381

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              Thank you arse assassin

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                Except for the part where decades' worth of software no longer runs on Windows.

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                Right, because Linux definitely can't run Windows software. Don't check.

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                  Stop posting Lunduke stuff. This dude sucks and has a long history of sucking.

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                    You agreed to the ToS given by the library.

                    Hence why you have to get a library card to check out a book.

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                    Okay, and if I find the book on the street?

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                      The full Microsoft XP source code was leaked and is available for anyone on GitHub; not the same, I know, I've just always wondered why a community never formed to fork it

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                      Because it's not legal and no one's going to develop software for XP. Someone could make and sell security patches for it, but the type of person who still runs XP either doesn't care enough to buy security patches or it's running some hardware that isn't connected to the internet.

                      There are exactly two games released in the past few years that have XP support, but that was more a flex on the part of the developer then catering to the market. HROT and Zortch are those games if you're curious.

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                        Mostly because Microsoft tries to maintain backwards compatibility to ridiculous extents, and their customers grew accustomed to it so they kinda rely on it, no ?

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                        Surely it's less work to maintain security patches for a few prior versions of windows than it is to indefinitely maintain backwards compatibility

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                        • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubB [email protected]

                          macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

                          But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I'd understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It's not hard to see why they might've thought it's Linux based.

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                          macOS is a certified UNIX, sure, but according to some 2002 specification, and if you modify your system in such matter that it will be in nearly broken state.

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                            Oh? What did he do

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                            Just check his video titles.

                            Even without it, that snark face he uses for the thumbnails are a very big tell.

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                              Lmfao. My fucking lead was arguing with me the other day how Linux is Unix. I just said ok after I saw that it was going nowhere.

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                              • thiefuserpermissions@lemmy.myserv.oneT [email protected]

                                The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:

                                “During 1842–1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage's newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world's first published computer program.”

                                From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages

                                This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

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                                Because women bad.

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                                • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                  Lmfao. My fucking lead was arguing with me the other day how Linux is Unix. I just said ok after I saw that it was going nowhere.

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                                  Been there, had that conversation.

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                                  • thiefuserpermissions@lemmy.myserv.oneT [email protected]

                                    The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:

                                    “During 1842–1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage's newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world's first published computer program.”

                                    From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages

                                    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

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                                    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

                                    He's a long-standing member of the tech pundit community (dare I say the Linux community), and in recent years has been exposed as antivax, anti-woke, and a bigot. Before that he was just a confident sounding asshole with sometimes interesting opinions.

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                                      This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

                                      He's a long-standing member of the tech pundit community (dare I say the Linux community), and in recent years has been exposed as antivax, anti-woke, and a bigot. Before that he was just a confident sounding asshole with sometimes interesting opinions.

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                                      Fair. I didnt check any of the other myths so some may well be myths. Just interesting to me that his opinion is stated as fact when its a bit of a grey area and one could easily interpret her to be the first programmer in some ways. Its not like a computer has to exist to write a computer program, for example, you can imagine a world where all computers are destroyed in an event but a surviving programmer can still write a computer program if you just handed them a stone tablet and charcoal. The non existence of a computer is problem, and a computer program written in a textbook is also valid.

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                                        Fair. I didnt check any of the other myths so some may well be myths. Just interesting to me that his opinion is stated as fact when its a bit of a grey area and one could easily interpret her to be the first programmer in some ways. Its not like a computer has to exist to write a computer program, for example, you can imagine a world where all computers are destroyed in an event but a surviving programmer can still write a computer program if you just handed them a stone tablet and charcoal. The non existence of a computer is problem, and a computer program written in a textbook is also valid.

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                                        For the record I wasn't disagreeing with your point or criticizing it at all. Just trying to give some context that might explain what you were observing.

                                        🙂

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                                          For the record I wasn't disagreeing with your point or criticizing it at all. Just trying to give some context that might explain what you were observing.

                                          🙂

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                                          Yes understand completely:)

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