Don't fix the problem just change the parameters
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Read again.
I just don’t see what any of this has to do with laziness.
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The less educated a populous is, the less likely they are to think critically, think for themselves, and ultimately the easier they are to control.
It's getting really bad. Some people even use "populous" when they mean "populace."
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To the title, that's always been the case.
"no child left behind" turned into "make it easier until everyone passes"
Shit isn't new. it's been going on for a long, long ass time.Do the blackboards in the US also say "breathe in, breathe out, repeat" so that half the class doesn't just die?
No that's silly, there's no guarantee that they could read that.
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Disagree - it rarely matters to me if it's 13:24:56 or 13:25:05, but I do find the instant and intuitive gauging of time deltas super useful (as in, how long it's going to be to the full hour / to quarter past / ... ). Not saying you can't get that info from a digital clock as well, of course you can; but the physicality of analog clocks lends a good bit of intuition to this, I feel.
I get that, but I personally find that I often do care about the exact time, down to the minutes, and that's harder to track with an analogue clock. I don't have particular problems in reading them, I just often prefer digital clocks.
But I will agree that I feel analogue clocks give a better vibe of the time, since its basically a pie chart of how far you are in the day.
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Kids don’t know cursive either. Nobody needs it anymore.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I feel that learning cursive is important.
First you learn how to write ordinary letters. That trains your fine motor skills so you can write them reliably (try writing with your non-dominant yourself hand to see).
What cursive teaches you is how to write quickly. Of course, no one will write in pure, perfect cursive. Most people settle for a style somewhere in between. It teaches you the concept of "you can combine letters together to make you write faster" and "here are a bunch of ways to combine them". It's a good thing, Especially if they end up going to college.
Giving them a few more weeks of practice in reading and writing is a great way to avoid them being partially illiterate.
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I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...
Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?
Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm 35. Math major. Work in STEM. Well educated.
I hate analogue clocks. Why use subpar way of reading time if digital is so much better?
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I just don’t see what any of this has to do with laziness.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You don't see how people too lazy to understand the clock are too lazy?
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Students with dyslexia do get special treatment. There is no reason to discriminate against people lacking an unrelated skill and it's not funny to demand it so we at least agree on something
wrote last edited by [email protected]I agree.
That being said, there's a difference between having a disability and just not having had enough practice.
Just having an analogue clock in all rooms and halls of a school is a way to give people the opportunity to get the practice.
In higher grades you can have an analogue clock in front and a digital "cheat" one in the back. If they're not sure, they can glance at that. And if that cheat clock is only in every other room. Most will learn because it's easier that way.
When reading the clock comes as a topic of the curriculum in 1st or 2nd grade, having the teacher ask a student to read the time periodically from the classroom clock for a few months will make sure everyone has had at least some opportunities to practice.
Of course, if someone does have a problem bordering on disability, accomodate them. Regardless of whether their parents took the time and money to have it diagnosed or not. But a quarter of a class having it is either bad luck or just bad methodology.
Edit: all this applies to elementary school.
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I'm 35. Math major. Work in STEM. Well educated.
I hate analogue clocks. Why use subpar way of reading time if digital is so much better?
Because it's not! Glad to help you clear that up.
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I get that, but I personally find that I often do care about the exact time, down to the minutes, and that's harder to track with an analogue clock. I don't have particular problems in reading them, I just often prefer digital clocks.
But I will agree that I feel analogue clocks give a better vibe of the time, since its basically a pie chart of how far you are in the day.
Yeah, vibe of the time is a good description
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Analog clocks are dated? Let's get rid of books because we have kindles. Just something was invented a very long time ago doesn't make it obsolete by any means. Or should we get rid of spoons or hammers? Those things are really somewhat dated.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Or should we get rid of spoons or hammers?
I have to say, I'm quite fond of my pneumatic hammer. When will my pneumatic silverware become a thing?
I just can't be bothered to expend any energy while I'm eating! It's supposed to give me energy, after all!
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First: Some UK teachers exchanged the analogue with digital clocks. This was only to reduce interruptions by some students (during a specific kind of UK exams), who had trouble determining the remaining time in the heat of the exam battle.
Secondly: The use of analogue clocks is taught at UK schools. What's missing is the practice that former generations of pupils had. No more wristwatches, public clocks all but gone, and (what I am nostalgically missing from my youth) no more peeking onto parked car's dashboards to read the analogue clock there. Times have changed, and this specific partially lost ability is not the schools' fault. (Not to say that other things aren't...)
Can we please bury that stupid old meme, as it has been based on some inaccurate buzz and largely giving a completely inaccurate impression of the topic from the start...
Since smart watches are a thing some schools banned wristwatches during exams because they where not planning to look for the differences
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I just don’t see what any of this has to do with laziness.
It isn't lazy to have a mastered skill and use it. It's lazy not taking the time to master it.
That being said, the biggest lazies of them all are the curriculum writers which don't make teaching future working adults how to use a clock a priority in grade school.
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It's getting really bad. Some people even use "populous" when they mean "populace."
It's getting so bad that some people even put the period INSIDE the quotation mark at the end of a sentence!
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Read again. Slowly. And again. And again.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You too, honestly. It reads straightforward enough. If you somehow misread his comment, that's on you. Idk if you can really ask people to read.
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I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...
Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?
Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.
Yeah but the "hard" work of reading an analog clock apparently offends some people. Just more of "feelings" nonsense vs. facts
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You're ratioed in each and every comment and still you act with this feeling of superiority. I admire this level of confidence or should I say lack of self reflection.
Where I live, students get a calculator in I think 8th or 9th grade. So at this point, it would be ok to also hang a digital clock in the classroom, right?
If you are repeatedly misunderstood and want to change that, maybe rephrase your point if you have one. Than you might even be taken seriously.
He's honestly so cringe. Must be a sour old guy who wants to demonstrate his superiority in the least effort taking way possible. He's made so many comments and not a single valid point. If he finds he cannot make a good argument, he turns to insulting and "rEaD aGaIn sLoWly".
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I feel that learning cursive is important.
First you learn how to write ordinary letters. That trains your fine motor skills so you can write them reliably (try writing with your non-dominant yourself hand to see).
What cursive teaches you is how to write quickly. Of course, no one will write in pure, perfect cursive. Most people settle for a style somewhere in between. It teaches you the concept of "you can combine letters together to make you write faster" and "here are a bunch of ways to combine them". It's a good thing, Especially if they end up going to college.
Giving them a few more weeks of practice in reading and writing is a great way to avoid them being partially illiterate.
Counter point: I can write a hell of a lot faster on a keyboard if I need to take notes.
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I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...
Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?
Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.
Lemmites will never miss an opportunity to make things difficult to draw attention to themselves.
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I feel like I'm going insane reading these comments about how difficult it is to read analog clocks, how it needs too much understanding of maths, how it takes too long,...
Can someone please confirm: you just look, for a fraction of a second, at the clock face and know the time, right?
Learning to read the clock was like... A couple of lessons and some homework in the 2nd grade, and everyone got it.
How tf are we in 2025 and people are still spouting off as if all humans have the same brain capacity and capability?
