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Don't fix the problem just change the parameters

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    Eh, we don't teach them how to read a sundial or make a fire anymore either. I don't see a problem with removing old technology from school instruction.

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      Forgetting things that don't matter much is a thing honey.

      "don't matter" is a key here sweetie. Anologue clocks are widely used.

      I've managed to learn both the clocks,

      I very much doubt it.

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      Anologue clocks are widely used

      Alright, ig they are. But not always used everywhere. People can opt for digital clock any time. If there's no digital clock somewhere you go, well, most of the time people carry digital devices which use the digital clock. There's as many digital clocks as there are smartphones. And People tend to check their smartphones a lot. Thus, they're more exposed to them. Therefore it doesn't really matter. My point still stands

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        Anologue clocks are widely used

        Alright, ig they are. But not always used everywhere. People can opt for digital clock any time. If there's no digital clock somewhere you go, well, most of the time people carry digital devices which use the digital clock. There's as many digital clocks as there are smartphones. And People tend to check their smartphones a lot. Thus, they're more exposed to them. Therefore it doesn't really matter. My point still stands

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        But not always used everywhere

        Your point is?

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          Are people really this stupid now?

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          Just read comments of some users in this very thread. "Idiocracy" was a documentary after all.

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            But not always used everywhere

            Your point is?

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            They can have a digital clock anytime they want, thus it doesn't matter. Ig, long paragraphs hurt u

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              They can have a digital clock anytime they want, thus it doesn't matter. Ig, long paragraphs hurt u

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              They also have a calculator any time they want, why are we requiring mental arithmetic, sweetie?

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                They also have a calculator any time they want, why are we requiring mental arithmetic, sweetie?

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                I said this a LOT of times sweetie, pls write it down.

                Here we go.....

                BRAINS ARE FASTER WITH SMALLER CALCULATIONS THAN CALCULATORS AND ANALOG CLOCKS ARE NOT FASTER THAN DIGITAL ONES IN ANY WAYS

                Was that large enough? Can u see it?

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                  I said this a LOT of times sweetie, pls write it down.

                  Here we go.....

                  BRAINS ARE FASTER WITH SMALLER CALCULATIONS THAN CALCULATORS AND ANALOG CLOCKS ARE NOT FASTER THAN DIGITAL ONES IN ANY WAYS

                  Was that large enough? Can u see it?

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                  Honestly, mate - you are the best proof why the analogue clock skills are needed 🤣🤣🤣

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                    Honestly, mate - you are the best proof why the analogue clock skills are needed 🤣🤣🤣

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                    Still wasn't large enough I see. I'm starting to suspect your ability to read. You're the best proof why reading comprehension is necessary. 🤡🤡🤡

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                      Analogue clocks are a great example of kids having to understand a concept and apply it. And it's simple enough that anyone can learn it.

                      I often see examples where children are required to memorize a set solution, instead of showing understanding and reaching the solutions themselves.

                      These clocks are somewhat dated, but removing them just feels like another symptom of a failing educational system.

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                        First: Some UK teachers exchanged the analogue with digital clocks. This was only to reduce interruptions by some students (during a specific kind of UK exams), who had trouble determining the remaining time in the heat of the exam battle.

                        Secondly: The use of analogue clocks is taught at UK schools. What's missing is the practice that former generations of pupils had. No more wristwatches, public clocks all but gone, and (what I am nostalgically missing from my youth) no more peeking onto parked car's dashboards to read the analogue clock there. Times have changed, and this specific partially lost ability is not the schools' fault. (Not to say that other things aren't...)

                        Can we please bury that stupid old meme, as it has been based on some inaccurate buzz and largely giving a completely inaccurate impression of the topic from the start...

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                        I used to troll my teachers with inane questions to help my friends prepare for exams or quizzes that we knew were coming. I can't expect it's changed much.

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                          Eh, we don't teach them how to read a sundial or make a fire anymore either. I don't see a problem with removing old technology from school instruction.

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                          Especially when this is a skill easily teached by parents. But who whants to interact with the humans one put into this world, I need to get this [insert trend item]

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                            Still can't understand how any kid cannot do it. Isn't that something you learn from your parents before you even go to school

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                            I think I learned how to read a clock in preschool, not from my parents

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                              I fail to see why problem an analogue clocks are a solution for.

                              Like cursive they are obsolete.

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                                I fail to see why problem an analogue clocks are a solution for.

                                Like cursive they are obsolete.

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                                My thoughts exactly. This just screams "old men afraid of change, thinking everything was better back in the day". The world is changing, things become obsolete because they're replaced by newer, better stuff all the time.

                                I'm sure people were complaining that kids were getting stupider when they stopped using abascuses, fucking cursive (I specifically remember people being upset about this one), dictionaries in book form, fountain pens, handwritten exams.

                                It's time for a lot of people to realise that they themselves have become the complaining old farts they always hated as kids.

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                                  My thoughts exactly. This just screams "old men afraid of change, thinking everything was better back in the day". The world is changing, things become obsolete because they're replaced by newer, better stuff all the time.

                                  I'm sure people were complaining that kids were getting stupider when they stopped using abascuses, fucking cursive (I specifically remember people being upset about this one), dictionaries in book form, fountain pens, handwritten exams.

                                  It's time for a lot of people to realise that they themselves have become the complaining old farts they always hated as kids.

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                                  I know a Gen X guy who "hates" digital clocks because "they don't have hands to tell me what time it is."

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                                    Snopes article about this from 2018 stating it’s mostly false.

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                                    Its becoming a reality though. I work in a school (primary and secondary) and the exams officer is putting digital clocks only in the exam rooms for that reason.

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                                      First: Some UK teachers exchanged the analogue with digital clocks. This was only to reduce interruptions by some students (during a specific kind of UK exams), who had trouble determining the remaining time in the heat of the exam battle.

                                      Secondly: The use of analogue clocks is taught at UK schools. What's missing is the practice that former generations of pupils had. No more wristwatches, public clocks all but gone, and (what I am nostalgically missing from my youth) no more peeking onto parked car's dashboards to read the analogue clock there. Times have changed, and this specific partially lost ability is not the schools' fault. (Not to say that other things aren't...)

                                      Can we please bury that stupid old meme, as it has been based on some inaccurate buzz and largely giving a completely inaccurate impression of the topic from the start...

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                                      My wrist watches were always digital, public clocks in suburbia I'm just gonna say never existed, in cars wtf?

                                      I can only see this as an education problem.

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                                        Still can't understand how any kid cannot do it. Isn't that something you learn from your parents before you even go to school

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                                        I remember learning in second grade.

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                                          "yikes" what?

                                          Passing exams is not an entitlement, it is an achievement. If someone is an idiot unable to understand the clock, they shouldn't be in the exam room in the first place - and they certainly shouldn't expect someone will start explaining clock to them when they are supposed to write an exam.

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                                          Why are you so adamant that reading an analog clock is required to pass an exam that doesn't feature any material related to reading analog clocks?

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