Which job(s) would you refuse to accept regardless of how good the pay is?
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I always wondered if the overtime is part of the problem. A lot of it is pretty sketchy, so it’s training cops to be sketchy
In my state, police unions have been pretty aggressive about requiring construction sites to pay for police details. I have no idea whether it has the safety benefits they claim but
- city is happy because someone else is paying their cops
- cops are happy with opportunity to make bank
But we all pay a little more, cops have a conflict of interest acting as an authority figure for a private company, and the requirements are sketchy on both sides for something other than what they were hired for
From what I have heard their overtime numbers are largely bullshit and used as a way to inflate their income and it’s considered an “acceptable practice”
But even with all of that we still can’t find good police…
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Raytheon and co. Anything related to "defense", really.
You only go around the sun so many times, and you want to spend it on making brown kids into skeletons more efficiently? Fuck that shit.
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Same. Although mainly because I don't have the cool maintain my cover while undermining the organization from within.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'd end up with assault/murder charges, for tasing/shooting one of the bulldogs.
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ICE agent.
But, what about your monthly "nut"?
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But, what about your monthly "nut"?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'll stick with growing weed and building computers. Less blood on my hands there.
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I'll stick with growing weed and building computers. Less blood on my hands there.
Was just a silly reference to the last South Park episode.
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Nursing.
Couldn't pay me to go through the hell those people witness
there's a lot of different settings for a nurse, but I guess a good nurse should be able to at least stomach the worst of em if needed
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This unfortunately is the problem with the police. People who see the police as problematic are unwilling to join so the majority of people who join are the ones who just want to have power over others.
There are many variations on the quote but a cop who doesn’t report a bad cop is themselves a bad cop, so you could be the actual good cop who reports their coworkers until you get fired from the corrupt org but if enough people did that we might actually see some change.
Cops also have a surprising amount of freedom to choose to enforce laws so you could also just not enforce laws you consider corrupt.
I am saying this as a person who wouldn’t want to associate with a cop but would love to have some cops who aren’t bastards but unfortunately #ACAB
You're right. the institution of policing protects the interests of the wealthy and the status quo. that's why all cops are bastards. we can definitely have better or worse human beingd entering the institution.
Sadly the majority of them are from the bottom of the barrel. We definitely need more cops sympathetic to the interests of the people
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"Look, I've worked with other vulture companies to convince them to get better PR by not being absolute soul-rotting evil all the time!" is not the flex you think it is, R.E. insurance compainies.
I think you misread. I didn't work with or for insurance companies.
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Anything public facing or anything that has me carrying around a gun. Both are absolute no-gos in my mind.
Naked Cowboy model for a sexy western themed oak furniture teleshopping service.
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Anything food service. I am NOT to be trusted with food.
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Chicken sexer. Sending all those cute little chicks to their deaths.
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ICE agent.
What if they paid you enough to bankroll a political campaign for the opposition?
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What if they paid you enough to bankroll a political campaign for the opposition?
A) they wouldn't. B) I'd still end up in jail for attacking another agent.
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Everyone just saying jobs they dont like, or that they have ethical qualms about, but ignoring "regardless of pay" - and I don't believe you.
Just imagine the salary for the position is $500m per year. At a certain point, you would be able to quit the job with plenty of money for the rest of your life after working for a very short period of time, or else you would be able to use the money to make more good in the world than the harm done by your labor.
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A) they wouldn't. B) I'd still end up in jail for attacking another agent.
A) That's not the question. The question said "regardless of pay." So we can imagine you get paid $500m. It doesn't have to be realistic. That's the point of a hypothetical.
B) If that's the case, you need to work on your impulse control. In our hypothetical scenario, you would be sacrificing the political change you could create with your salary for the short term satisfaction of hurting someone else. It's a bit of a trolley problem - but then, the point of trolly problems is to get us to grapple with our ethical assumptions.
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Everyone just saying jobs they dont like, or that they have ethical qualms about, but ignoring "regardless of pay" - and I don't believe you.
Just imagine the salary for the position is $500m per year. At a certain point, you would be able to quit the job with plenty of money for the rest of your life after working for a very short period of time, or else you would be able to use the money to make more good in the world than the harm done by your labor.
If you have a skill set someone is offering $500k for, someone less shitty is going to be offering at least $400k. So you're not giving up $500k, you're giving up $100k or 20%. I've taken bigger pay cuts than that in exchange for increased job satisfaction.
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If you have a skill set someone is offering $500k for, someone less shitty is going to be offering at least $400k. So you're not giving up $500k, you're giving up $100k or 20%. I've taken bigger pay cuts than that in exchange for increased job satisfaction.
Every other job will only hire you for a normal wage that you would make in the real world.
The point of the exercise is to grapple with an ethical quandry, not to sidestep it.
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Every other job will only hire you for a normal wage that you would make in the real world.
The point of the exercise is to grapple with an ethical quandry, not to sidestep it.
I'm not particularly interested in an exercise which is completely irrelevant to real-world scenarios. In the real world your choice would look more similar to my example, so that is the more relevant hypothetical.
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I'm not particularly interested in an exercise which is completely irrelevant to real-world scenarios. In the real world your choice would look more similar to my example, so that is the more relevant hypothetical.
If we cared about the real world, we'd be actually doing something, rather than just talking.
