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  • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

    Is there a non pay walled article?

    tal@lemmy.todayT This user is from outside of this forum
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    If you paste the URL into archive.ph, solve the CAPTCHA, and comment with the corresponding link, you can provide a link too. There's no magic to it.

    https://archive.ph/gMO0C

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    • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

      If you paste the URL into archive.ph, solve the CAPTCHA, and comment with the corresponding link, you can provide a link too. There's no magic to it.

      https://archive.ph/gMO0C

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      Oh that's weird, it wasn't working before. Thanks

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        “The 1930s are back,” said Carsten Brzeski, an economist at ING Germany, comparing the wave of trade barriers imposed by the White House to 1930s-era protectionist trade rules.

        Hi Germany, I promise here in Denmark we will buy more German and less American.
        And at least this time we have EU, and UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and many other countries, are probably also ready to increase trade with us (EU).

        So although it will have an impact, I doubt it will be anywhere remotely close to the 30's. And if ti's any consolation, USA will probably be hit harder than Germany.

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          Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s, and this is also what the article says if I got that right. So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

          But it's not good for the EU and Germany, of course, although the impact varies greatly across member countries. Ireland is the country with by far the largest share of its exports going to the U.S., with a rate of >25%.The large economies like Italy and Germany show values of around 10%, exceeding those of France and Spain which are 7% and 5%, respectively.

          The US market is less relevant for the countries in Eastern Europe, where value chains are more integrated within the single market.

          If we look at the countries' importance of the U.S. in terms of each country’s GDP, Ireland is highly dependent on the US if we consider its exports of goods and services together, as the US market represents around 20% of the country’s GDP.

          Other countries that are above the EU average include Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta, as they provide services to the U.S. market that make up a large part of their national economy. And the same is true for Belgium, the Netherlands and Slovakia in exports of goods.

          Among the larger EU countries, Germany has the greatest exposure to the U.S., at at 5% of GDP, followed by Italy, at 4%, France (3%), and Spain (2%).

          So it's not good, of course, but given the EU retaliates accordingly and restructure its economy, it could also mean a more integrated, independent EU market in the long term.

          It will hurt the U.S. much more than Eurooe imho.

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            Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s, and this is also what the article says if I got that right. So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

            But it's not good for the EU and Germany, of course, although the impact varies greatly across member countries. Ireland is the country with by far the largest share of its exports going to the U.S., with a rate of >25%.The large economies like Italy and Germany show values of around 10%, exceeding those of France and Spain which are 7% and 5%, respectively.

            The US market is less relevant for the countries in Eastern Europe, where value chains are more integrated within the single market.

            If we look at the countries' importance of the U.S. in terms of each country’s GDP, Ireland is highly dependent on the US if we consider its exports of goods and services together, as the US market represents around 20% of the country’s GDP.

            Other countries that are above the EU average include Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta, as they provide services to the U.S. market that make up a large part of their national economy. And the same is true for Belgium, the Netherlands and Slovakia in exports of goods.

            Among the larger EU countries, Germany has the greatest exposure to the U.S., at at 5% of GDP, followed by Italy, at 4%, France (3%), and Spain (2%).

            So it's not good, of course, but given the EU retaliates accordingly and restructure its economy, it could also mean a more integrated, independent EU market in the long term.

            It will hurt the U.S. much more than Eurooe imho.

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            So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

            Given what Germany was up to in the 1930s I think "misleading" is putting it mildly 😅

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              Not Germany, USA.

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                Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s, and this is also what the article says if I got that right. So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

                But it's not good for the EU and Germany, of course, although the impact varies greatly across member countries. Ireland is the country with by far the largest share of its exports going to the U.S., with a rate of >25%.The large economies like Italy and Germany show values of around 10%, exceeding those of France and Spain which are 7% and 5%, respectively.

                The US market is less relevant for the countries in Eastern Europe, where value chains are more integrated within the single market.

                If we look at the countries' importance of the U.S. in terms of each country’s GDP, Ireland is highly dependent on the US if we consider its exports of goods and services together, as the US market represents around 20% of the country’s GDP.

                Other countries that are above the EU average include Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta, as they provide services to the U.S. market that make up a large part of their national economy. And the same is true for Belgium, the Netherlands and Slovakia in exports of goods.

                Among the larger EU countries, Germany has the greatest exposure to the U.S., at at 5% of GDP, followed by Italy, at 4%, France (3%), and Spain (2%).

                So it's not good, of course, but given the EU retaliates accordingly and restructure its economy, it could also mean a more integrated, independent EU market in the long term.

                It will hurt the U.S. much more than Eurooe imho.

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                Here in Romania, much of what was left of our steel production was going to the US. This will hit us very hard.
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                  Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s, and this is also what the article says if I got that right. So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

                  But it's not good for the EU and Germany, of course, although the impact varies greatly across member countries. Ireland is the country with by far the largest share of its exports going to the U.S., with a rate of >25%.The large economies like Italy and Germany show values of around 10%, exceeding those of France and Spain which are 7% and 5%, respectively.

                  The US market is less relevant for the countries in Eastern Europe, where value chains are more integrated within the single market.

                  If we look at the countries' importance of the U.S. in terms of each country’s GDP, Ireland is highly dependent on the US if we consider its exports of goods and services together, as the US market represents around 20% of the country’s GDP.

                  Other countries that are above the EU average include Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta, as they provide services to the U.S. market that make up a large part of their national economy. And the same is true for Belgium, the Netherlands and Slovakia in exports of goods.

                  Among the larger EU countries, Germany has the greatest exposure to the U.S., at at 5% of GDP, followed by Italy, at 4%, France (3%), and Spain (2%).

                  So it's not good, of course, but given the EU retaliates accordingly and restructure its economy, it could also mean a more integrated, independent EU market in the long term.

                  It will hurt the U.S. much more than Eurooe imho.

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                  but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s,

                  Just think one step further.
                  One little step.

                  US goes back to fascism. A little later Germany goes back to fascism.

                  Germany has a strong tradition in following the US with every shitty fashion ...

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                    Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it is the U.S. that is heading back to the 1930s, and this is also what the article says if I got that right. So the headline is a bit misleading imho.

                    But it's not good for the EU and Germany, of course, although the impact varies greatly across member countries. Ireland is the country with by far the largest share of its exports going to the U.S., with a rate of >25%.The large economies like Italy and Germany show values of around 10%, exceeding those of France and Spain which are 7% and 5%, respectively.

                    The US market is less relevant for the countries in Eastern Europe, where value chains are more integrated within the single market.

                    If we look at the countries' importance of the U.S. in terms of each country’s GDP, Ireland is highly dependent on the US if we consider its exports of goods and services together, as the US market represents around 20% of the country’s GDP.

                    Other countries that are above the EU average include Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta, as they provide services to the U.S. market that make up a large part of their national economy. And the same is true for Belgium, the Netherlands and Slovakia in exports of goods.

                    Among the larger EU countries, Germany has the greatest exposure to the U.S., at at 5% of GDP, followed by Italy, at 4%, France (3%), and Spain (2%).

                    So it's not good, of course, but given the EU retaliates accordingly and restructure its economy, it could also mean a more integrated, independent EU market in the long term.

                    It will hurt the U.S. much more than Eurooe imho.

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                    Cyprus, Luxemburg and Malts, as they provide services to the US market

                    That's a nice way to say "tax havens". Also, many US Big Tech companies have headquarters in Ireland and would pay taxes there .... if only these dirt poor companies would have any revenue.....

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                      Not Germany, USA.

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                      Causing economic chaos and sudden large job losses in Germany is surely a way to help Gwrmanys extreme right-wing party AfD. I wouldn't advise to under-estimate that danger.

                      Especially since the still-forming social-democrat/conservative coalition is surprisingly quiet on the rise of far-right practices in the US. Being distrustful, one could think that would-be chancellor Merz wants more to govern with the AfD - which, make no mistake, would probably be at least as bad as Trump.

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