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    Maybe just don't eat shit with tons of sugar and fat...

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      Maybe just don't eat shit with tons of sugar and fat...

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      Nestle produces a lot of other things than sugar and fat. So much in fact that it's actually hard to completely avoid them. The point is that they are a terrible company who does bad things, so you should boycott them.

      Also, people can indulge in sugar and fat if they want to.

      Little edit on that past point because some people don't understand indulge doesn't always mean over indulge, or they outright think I'm deranged because I might indulge in a chocolate bar as a treat in my otherwise varied and balanced diet and I suggested others might do the same if they want to.

      I understand too much fat and chocolate is bad, that doesn't mean the world should never eat things that might be bad for them in moderation, relax.

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        Of note KitKats made in the US are made by Hershey, not Nestle. As I understand it's a legacy licencing deal and Nestle makes no money if you buy a US KitKat.

        That being said Hershey's chocolate is what it is. American's are used to it, but it's not great.

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          Of note KitKats made in the US are made by Hershey, not Nestle. As I understand it's a legacy licencing deal and Nestle makes no money if you buy a US KitKat.

          That being said Hershey's chocolate is what it is. American's are used to it, but it's not great.

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          • Hershey's sued after study found lead and other heavy metals in its dark chocolate https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hersheys-dark-chocolate-heavy-metals-lead-cadmium/
          • Hershey Accused of Using Child Labor and Making False Health Claims for Special Dark Kisses http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/hershey-accused-of-using-child-labor-and-making-false-health-claims-for-special-dark-kisses-121119?news=846233
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            Of note KitKats made in the US are made by Hershey, not Nestle. As I understand it's a legacy licencing deal and Nestle makes no money if you buy a US KitKat.

            That being said Hershey's chocolate is what it is. American's are used to it, but it's not great.

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            Yes but Nestlé KitKats are commonly imported and sold in the US too, especially in Asian grocery stores. I see them everywhere.

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              Better than Kit Kat.

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                I was kind of surprised that they tried to astroturf here. Reddit probably has their back and they got too cocky.

                The company has been associated with various controversies, facing criticism and boycotts over its marketing of baby formula as an alternative to breastfeeding in developing countries (where clean water may be scarce), its reliance on suppliers that use child labour in cocoa production, and its production and promotion of bottled water.

                Nestlé is involved in many significant controversies due to Nestlé's reported use of

                • Baby milk controversy
                • incidents of contaminated and infested food products,
                • actively spreading disinformation about recycling,
                • illegal water-pumping from drought-stricken Native American reservations,
                • preventing access to non-bottled water in impoverished countries,
                • price fixing,
                • slave labor,
                • child labor,
                • extensive union-busting activity, and
                • deforestation.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestlé#Controversies

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                Baby milk controversy

                I have some women coworkers and a couple of years ago they were sitting in the break room lamenting how hard it was to find formula. I naively asked them why they didn't breastfeed and they looked at me like I'd grown an extra head. It's absolutely astonishing that after 200 million years of successful breastfeeding (which even gives us our "mammal" name), a corporation was able to convince women that no, they should be feeding their babies with shit from a can made in factory.

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                  Baby milk controversy

                  I have some women coworkers and a couple of years ago they were sitting in the break room lamenting how hard it was to find formula. I naively asked them why they didn't breastfeed and they looked at me like I'd grown an extra head. It's absolutely astonishing that after 200 million years of successful breastfeeding (which even gives us our "mammal" name), a corporation was able to convince women that no, they should be feeding their babies with shit from a can made in factory.

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                  Not everybody can breastfeed tho.

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                    Better than Kit Kat.

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                    Better than KitKat.

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                      At first glance, I thought that was a pile of cocaine on the 3rd kit kat.....I need to go to bed.

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                        At first glance, I thought that was a pile of cocaine on the 3rd kit kat.....I need to go to bed.

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                        Or alternatively, you need a pile of cocaine on a kit-kat.

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                          Not everybody can breastfeed tho.

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                          So there shouldn't be a stigma around a mother paying or accepting donated milk from another lactating woman. But we're still at the stage where feeding a synthetic concoction made from a different species' breastmilk is okay, but saying another woman breastfeeds your baby would get you weird looks. Wet nurses used to be a thing!

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                            Not everybody can breastfeed tho.

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                            Sure, but that's not the case with the vast majority of women who use formula. Nestle doesn't market this stuff as a product for women who can't breastfeed, they market it as something superior to breast milk in general.

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                              • Hershey's sued after study found lead and other heavy metals in its dark chocolate https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hersheys-dark-chocolate-heavy-metals-lead-cadmium/
                              • Hershey Accused of Using Child Labor and Making False Health Claims for Special Dark Kisses http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/hershey-accused-of-using-child-labor-and-making-false-health-claims-for-special-dark-kisses-121119?news=846233
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                              the child labor give the chocolate soul

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                                Better than KitKat.

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                                Tony's is great, but it is a totally different candy than KitKat which is chocolate covered wafers

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                                  Nestle produces a lot of other things than sugar and fat. So much in fact that it's actually hard to completely avoid them. The point is that they are a terrible company who does bad things, so you should boycott them.

                                  Also, people can indulge in sugar and fat if they want to.

                                  Little edit on that past point because some people don't understand indulge doesn't always mean over indulge, or they outright think I'm deranged because I might indulge in a chocolate bar as a treat in my otherwise varied and balanced diet and I suggested others might do the same if they want to.

                                  I understand too much fat and chocolate is bad, that doesn't mean the world should never eat things that might be bad for them in moderation, relax.

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                                  But also the sugar and fat part has pretty serious consequences in parts of the world like Diabetes type 2 and the displacement of traditional cooking and is linked to political issues like lobbying. This long NYT article from 2017 about Nestles manipulation of eating habits in poor comunities in Brazil shows the impact (don't know if it has gotten better, though). Even obese people can be malnutritioned and once you aquired Diabetes Type 2 it can only be remedied, not cured.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil-obesity-nestle.html

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                                    Yes but Nestlé KitKats are commonly imported and sold in the US too, especially in Asian grocery stores. I see them everywhere.

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                                    Maybe that explains why the fancy Japanese KitKat flavors never live up to my imagination, despite Asian snacks and candy being generally superior (to my tastes) to similar western items.

                                    Oh well, now I have a good reason to not bother trying them any more.

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