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    Long COVID is costing countries billions of dollars in lost productivity and increased health and social welfare costs, economists say.

    Five years on from the start of the COVID-19 crisis, millions of people are struggling with debilitating health problems that have decimated their lives and livelihoods.

    The first cases of long COVID were reported in May 2020.

    The OECD, a club of mostly rich nations, estimates long COVID could be costing its 38 members $864 billion to $1.04 trillion annually due to reductions in quality of life and labour force participation. This does not include the extra burden on health services.

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      Long COVID is costing countries billions of dollars in lost productivity and increased health and social welfare costs, economists say.

      Five years on from the start of the COVID-19 crisis, millions of people are struggling with debilitating health problems that have decimated their lives and livelihoods.

      The first cases of long COVID were reported in May 2020.

      The OECD, a club of mostly rich nations, estimates long COVID could be costing its 38 members $864 billion to $1.04 trillion annually due to reductions in quality of life and labour force participation. This does not include the extra burden on health services.

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      I wish we would stop reporting this as an economic issue and instead cared about people themselves.

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        I wish we would stop reporting this as an economic issue and instead cared about people themselves.

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        Same here in The Netherlands, most reporting is on how many long COVID patients are (still) getting benefits.

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          I wish we would stop reporting this as an economic issue and instead cared about people themselves.

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          As a long COVID advocate, we’ve tried and tried sharing our stories and all we get is ridicule and “why didn’t you try acupuncture and exercise”. So we’re starting to focus more on the economic impacts as the average person seems to actually care about that.

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            As a long COVID advocate, we’ve tried and tried sharing our stories and all we get is ridicule and “why didn’t you try acupuncture and exercise”. So we’re starting to focus more on the economic impacts as the average person seems to actually care about that.

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            Super sad, I'm sorry.

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              As a long COVID advocate, we’ve tried and tried sharing our stories and all we get is ridicule and “why didn’t you try acupuncture and exercise”. So we’re starting to focus more on the economic impacts as the average person seems to actually care about that.

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              Have you tried walking it off?
              /s

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                Long COVID is costing countries billions of dollars in lost productivity and increased health and social welfare costs, economists say.

                Five years on from the start of the COVID-19 crisis, millions of people are struggling with debilitating health problems that have decimated their lives and livelihoods.

                The first cases of long COVID were reported in May 2020.

                The OECD, a club of mostly rich nations, estimates long COVID could be costing its 38 members $864 billion to $1.04 trillion annually due to reductions in quality of life and labour force participation. This does not include the extra burden on health services.

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                "Long COVID won't cost us billions if we don't have to treat them."

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                  Long COVID is costing countries billions of dollars in lost productivity and increased health and social welfare costs, economists say.

                  Five years on from the start of the COVID-19 crisis, millions of people are struggling with debilitating health problems that have decimated their lives and livelihoods.

                  The first cases of long COVID were reported in May 2020.

                  The OECD, a club of mostly rich nations, estimates long COVID could be costing its 38 members $864 billion to $1.04 trillion annually due to reductions in quality of life and labour force participation. This does not include the extra burden on health services.

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                  How do we know long covid is not a side effect from the vaccines?

                  Is there a control group that is not vaccinated that is suffering from long covid?

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                    How do we know long covid is not a side effect from the vaccines?

                    Is there a control group that is not vaccinated that is suffering from long covid?

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                    reading is hard isn’t it sweetie

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                      reading is hard isn’t it sweetie

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                      I did read the entire thing. What part answers my question? Maybe you didnt read it properly yourself?

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                        I wish we would stop reporting this as an economic issue and instead cared about people themselves.

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                        The economic angle was -- I thought -- to make shit like this break through to "conservatives". Since that doesn't seem to work because they care about their own goals over any impacts on reality (economic or not)... I too think we should just fucking stop it.

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                          How do we know long covid is not a side effect from the vaccines?

                          Is there a control group that is not vaccinated that is suffering from long covid?

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                          https://ideas.ted.com/my-life-with-long-covid/

                          This person got it before vaccines. It took me less time to search for a story than it did to write this post. You dont like truth you like fighting, that's why science scares you.

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                            https://ideas.ted.com/my-life-with-long-covid/

                            This person got it before vaccines. It took me less time to search for a story than it did to write this post. You dont like truth you like fighting, that's why science scares you.

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                            Science doesnt scare me and I did read that post. You guys sure like to make up things that never happened.

                            And then you continue to bring up some random article you found having long covid before vaccination, when my question was about the article linked here. Just because you find one person doesnt mean that all people with long covid didnt vaccinate.

                            I mean, its strange how some guys here are not only rude, but also quite stupid and constantly misunderstand basic questions. Whats going on?

                            Look at the comments to my question. None of them even correctly understand what I asked for. I dont know, maybe people are tired.

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                              How do we know long covid is not a side effect from the vaccines?

                              Is there a control group that is not vaccinated that is suffering from long covid?

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                              From https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

                              At the pandemic’s onset, approximately 10% of people who suffered COVID-19 infections went on to develop Long COVID. Now, the risk of getting Long COVID has dropped to about 3.5% among vaccinated people (primary series).

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                              Then, the team conducted analyses to uncover the reasons for the observed decline in Long COVID cases from the pre-Delta to Omicron eras. About 70% of the decline was attributable to vaccination, they found.

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                                From https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

                                At the pandemic’s onset, approximately 10% of people who suffered COVID-19 infections went on to develop Long COVID. Now, the risk of getting Long COVID has dropped to about 3.5% among vaccinated people (primary series).

                                ...

                                Then, the team conducted analyses to uncover the reasons for the observed decline in Long COVID cases from the pre-Delta to Omicron eras. About 70% of the decline was attributable to vaccination, they found.

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                                Thank you. None of this was in the original article but it does answer my question. So long covid does exist in patients that didnt vaccinate, and for the vaccinated, it cut the risk in half to get long covid.

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                                  How do we know long covid is not a side effect from the vaccines?

                                  Is there a control group that is not vaccinated that is suffering from long covid?

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                                  The control group would be people vaccinated who never got covid.

                                  If the premise is long covid is caused by the vaccine, and some vaccinated people never got any form of covid (Hi! That's me!) then you can be reasonably sure the vaccine doesn't cause long covid.

                                  Similarly if you have people with long covid who never got the vaccine. They got covid, then long covid. That would mean the vaccine is not a factor in long covid.

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                                    I wish we would stop reporting this as an economic issue and instead cared about people themselves.

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                                    What i learned during the pandemic is that people don't actually care about other people. So the economic standpoint might be the better angle

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                                      As a long COVID advocate, we’ve tried and tried sharing our stories and all we get is ridicule and “why didn’t you try acupuncture and exercise”. So we’re starting to focus more on the economic impacts as the average person seems to actually care about that.

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                                      I worked for a women with long covid. She's around 60 and she can barely walk to the door without being winded. She's also an anti vaxxer and doesn't believe covid is real and she has some sort of flu for the past 3 years. We're kinda fucked it seems.

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                                        "Long COVID won't cost us billions if we don't have to treat them."

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                                        They still won't pay taxes. And their families often reduce work hours to care for them.

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