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Mozilla Introduces Firefox’s First-Ever Terms of Use

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  • V [email protected]

    We know and that's why I dumped Firefox after 15+ years.

    LibreWolf and Floorp is all I have. Oh and I kicked Thunderbird to the curb too for BetterBird.

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    Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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    • bizarroland@fedia.ioB [email protected]

      I am very averse to companies breaking my trust.

      Mozilla can win it back by explicitly stating what they are collecting, why they are collecting it, and making opt out the default.

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      Yeah they're not going to do that until a few people leave the company. And they have no plans to leave.

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        Bye Firefox. Boy we had some good times, huh.

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          Yeah they're not going to do that until a few people leave the company. And they have no plans to leave.

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          And that's fine, I'll just use different browsers until they change their stance.

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            What are mobile options here? I'm not really seeing anything better on Android- Waterfox?

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              Here are some good forks. Zen, Waterfox, Floorp.

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              • N [email protected]

                ensuring that this way Firefox offers more data collection

                I knew it!

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                Take my upvote, no honor to your house, though 😉

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                  I remember reading a lot this past year about Mozilla fretting about their market share and trying to figure out how to grow their user base. Did I hallucinate that? Cuz their actions lately appear to be driving users away. Are they taking notes from Google or is there some other MBA making these brilliant changes?

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                    What are mobile options here? I'm not really seeing anything better on Android- Waterfox?

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                    Fennec from fdroid, it's just Firefox built from source

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                    • K [email protected]

                      What are mobile options here? I'm not really seeing anything better on Android- Waterfox?

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                      I'm on Ironwolf now

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                      • L [email protected]

                        I remember reading a lot this past year about Mozilla fretting about their market share and trying to figure out how to grow their user base. Did I hallucinate that? Cuz their actions lately appear to be driving users away. Are they taking notes from Google or is there some other MBA making these brilliant changes?

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                        Remember the Looking Glass fiasco? The people in charge of Firefox are so stupid it's indistinguishable from malice.

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                        • hal_5700x@sh.itjust.worksH [email protected]

                          Here are some good forks. Zen, Waterfox, Floorp.

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                          Zen has been really nice for the few days I’ve been using it. It feels real sleek and just more modern over all.

                          My computer is a bit old though and I wonder if there is something similar that is even lighter on resources. Zen is still pretty dang light though.

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                            Anyone have any good iOS alternatives? I’m eyeing Orion currently

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                              Anyone have any good iOS alternatives? I’m eyeing Orion currently

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                              Orion looks good as it does not collect any data. I don’t want Apple profiting from my safari usage.

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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                                Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.

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                                • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                  Orion looks good as it does not collect any data. I don’t want Apple profiting from my safari usage.

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                                  Same. I’m about done with all things big tech. As much as is possible at least. Orion it is! I also saw Vivaldi but I’m not super interested in all the other services that come along with it.

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                                    I'm on Ironwolf now

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                                    Also Fennec, iirc.

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                                    • hal_5700x@sh.itjust.worksH [email protected]

                                      Here are some good forks. Zen, Waterfox, Floorp.

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                                      Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.

                                      LibreWolf or Zen

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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                                        Thunderbird has improved a lot in recent years and I've been using it without problems

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                                        • higgsboson@dubvee.orgH [email protected]

                                          Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.

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                                          I'd never heard of Betterbird until now and wanna check it out, too!

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