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Mozilla Introduces Firefox’s First-Ever Terms of Use

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    Anyone have any good iOS alternatives? I’m eyeing Orion currently

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      Anyone have any good iOS alternatives? I’m eyeing Orion currently

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      Orion looks good as it does not collect any data. I don’t want Apple profiting from my safari usage.

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        Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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        Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.

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        • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

          Orion looks good as it does not collect any data. I don’t want Apple profiting from my safari usage.

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          Same. I’m about done with all things big tech. As much as is possible at least. Orion it is! I also saw Vivaldi but I’m not super interested in all the other services that come along with it.

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          • swab148@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

            I'm on Ironwolf now

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            Also Fennec, iirc.

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            • hal_5700x@sh.itjust.worksH [email protected]

              Here are some good forks. Zen, Waterfox, Floorp.

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              Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.

              LibreWolf or Zen

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                Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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                Thunderbird has improved a lot in recent years and I've been using it without problems

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                • higgsboson@dubvee.orgH [email protected]

                  Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.

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                  I'd never heard of Betterbird until now and wanna check it out, too!

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                    Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.

                    LibreWolf or Zen

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                    Awh. I was gonna go with Floorp on the name alone. Great name...

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                      Remember the Looking Glass fiasco? The people in charge of Firefox are so stupid it's indistinguishable from malice.

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                      Idk the CEOs $6mil salary sounds more like malice to me

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                        you mean opt in

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                        • wheelcharartist@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                          you mean opt in

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                          No, I mean by default you are opted out.

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                            Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.

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                            As long as they do it ethically, there's nothing wrong with that. That's also how Foss projects stay alive.

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                              Same. I’m about done with all things big tech. As much as is possible at least. Orion it is! I also saw Vivaldi but I’m not super interested in all the other services that come along with it.

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                              Wow it also supports Firefox and Chrome extensions on iPhone! That’s a killer feature!

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                                Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better

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                                Betterbird wouldn't exist without thunderbird though. Same with all those firefox forks people are recommending, if Firefox goes under most of those would go under too.

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                                  No, I mean by default you are opted out.

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                                  Okay, but when this is discussed "making opt out the default" means you are signed up and have to opt out if you don't want to be signed up.

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                                    very cool. thanks for sharing this. they even have an official flatpak.

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                                      Wow it also supports Firefox and Chrome extensions on iPhone! That’s a killer feature!

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                                      Yeah, started using it last night and I think it’s gonna stick. No complaints so far

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                                        Awh. I was gonna go with Floorp on the name alone. Great name...

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                                        Nah, you can still try Floorp. It’s very similar to Vivaldi (Chromium). I’m happy with it after using it for a few days to where I uninstalled Firefox. Shame for Firefox, been a user since 2003 or whenever.

                                        It took me less than five minutes to easily migrate my data from Firefox to Floorp. If Floorp enshittifies in the future, it’ll be super simple to migrate to another Gecko browser, or possibly Ladybird or other engines.

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                                          Firefox main problem with profitability relevance. They need more people to get people to use their tools

                                          So I just have two questions.

                                          1. How does this get new users?
                                          2. How does this help retention?

                                          The only answer is it doesn't and we don't care because we're going to cash out.

                                          I'm not running away, I'll still open Firefox tomorrow like yesterday because the browser landscape is terrible and the shadow of what Firefox was is still good.

                                          But I'm looking for the disruptor because as questionable as a lot of the new smaller browsers are, there are people out there trying and it's going to happen.

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