Mozilla Introduces Firefox’s First-Ever Terms of Use
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Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.
LibreWolf or Zen
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Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better
Thunderbird has improved a lot in recent years and I've been using it without problems
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Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.
I'd never heard of Betterbird until now and wanna check it out, too!
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Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.
LibreWolf or Zen
Awh. I was gonna go with Floorp on the name alone. Great name...
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Remember the Looking Glass fiasco? The people in charge of Firefox are so stupid it's indistinguishable from malice.
Idk the CEOs $6mil salary sounds more like malice to me
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you mean opt in
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you mean opt in
No, I mean by default you are opted out.
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Nah, Waterfox and Floorp devs are trying to make money out of their software.
LibreWolf or Zen
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Same. I’m about done with all things big tech. As much as is possible at least. Orion it is! I also saw Vivaldi but I’m not super interested in all the other services that come along with it.
Wow it also supports Firefox and Chrome extensions on iPhone! That’s a killer feature!
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Thunderbird has always been crap. Betterbird is truly better
Betterbird wouldn't exist without thunderbird though. Same with all those firefox forks people are recommending, if Firefox goes under most of those would go under too.
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No, I mean by default you are opted out.
Okay, but when this is discussed "making opt out the default" means you are signed up and have to opt out if you don't want to be signed up.
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very cool. thanks for sharing this. they even have an official flatpak.
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Wow it also supports Firefox and Chrome extensions on iPhone! That’s a killer feature!
Yeah, started using it last night and I think it’s gonna stick. No complaints so far
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Awh. I was gonna go with Floorp on the name alone. Great name...
Nah, you can still try Floorp. It’s very similar to Vivaldi (Chromium). I’m happy with it after using it for a few days to where I uninstalled Firefox. Shame for Firefox, been a user since 2003 or whenever.
It took me less than five minutes to easily migrate my data from Firefox to Floorp. If Floorp enshittifies in the future, it’ll be super simple to migrate to another Gecko browser, or possibly Ladybird or other engines.
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Firefox main problem with profitability relevance. They need more people to get people to use their tools
So I just have two questions.
- How does this get new users?
- How does this help retention?
The only answer is it doesn't and we don't care because we're going to cash out.
I'm not running away, I'll still open Firefox tomorrow like yesterday because the browser landscape is terrible and the shadow of what Firefox was is still good.
But I'm looking for the disruptor because as questionable as a lot of the new smaller browsers are, there are people out there trying and it's going to happen.
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Idk the CEOs $6mil salary sounds more like malice to me
Need more advertising in Firefox to keep pumping those exec salaries.
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Need more advertising in Firefox to keep pumping those exec salaries.
Most of their income has come directly from Google, the incumbent browser monopoly. I'm full tin foil hat on this one, Google is pulling the strings here.
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I will stick with Firefox for the time being. One must not forget that Firefox provides the basis for all the alternatives listed here. Despite all the controversy surrounding Mozilla, I still think Firefox is the better alternative to Chrome. And I would like to support this at least until there is a truly free browser. My hope is that Ladybird will be a success. However, it will take at least another 1-2 years until development is so far advanced that it can be used as a browser for everyday use.
Until then, I think we should all continue to support Firefox so that it doesn't disappear completely from the market. -
I will stick with Firefox for the time being. One must not forget that Firefox provides the basis for all the alternatives listed here. Despite all the controversy surrounding Mozilla, I still think Firefox is the better alternative to Chrome. And I would like to support this at least until there is a truly free browser. My hope is that Ladybird will be a success. However, it will take at least another 1-2 years until development is so far advanced that it can be used as a browser for everyday use.
Until then, I think we should all continue to support Firefox so that it doesn't disappear completely from the market.I kind of wish browsers would use cooler names, not "ladybird". Look at Brave. Pretty bad browser, surrounded in questionable stuff, but pretty much estabilished userbase nearly instantly, and I feel like much of that success is simply thanks to a catchy name
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Most of their income has come directly from Google, the incumbent browser monopoly. I'm full tin foil hat on this one, Google is pulling the strings here.
Didn't judge rule that google can no longer pay mozilla?
