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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • D [email protected]

    I'm not doing piracy, I'm just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉

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    This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

    I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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      I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?

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      Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕

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      • C [email protected]

        Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do

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        I hate that you're absolutely correct

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        • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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          more importantly because of accused. Just accused.

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          • tonytins@pawb.socialT [email protected]
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            Better source: https://torrentfreak.com/supreme-court-grants-coxs-bid-to-reexamine-liability-for-pirating-subscribers-250630/

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            • I [email protected]

              The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.

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              Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.

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                Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                  Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                    Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they're toothless and can't actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone's happy.

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                    ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      This still won’t make me pay for Netflix

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                      But it will make me pay for VPNs!

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                      • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        I'm not a judge, but isn't internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.

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                        I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                          Don't they already do this in most of Europe?

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                          Yeah it’s fucked up

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                            Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.

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                            • A [email protected]

                              I'm some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.

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                              Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?

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                              • D [email protected]

                                USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.

                                Let that sink in.

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                                • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                                  thank god i go to ireland to do all my torrenting.

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                                  i prefer to do mine in the czech republic, personally

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                                    Is piracy AI scraping?

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                                      And now I'm on a VPN because if they're just gonna cut people off for accusing of piracy they're gonna have to cut off everyone with a VPN.

                                      TBH I should have been behind a VPN before

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                                        That sink is a vampire, don't let it in

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                                        • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

                                          This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.

                                          I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)

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                                          Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VPS Hosting company?

                                          put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.

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