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What's one beauty standard that you don't agree with?

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  • fujiwood@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

    Not everyone is beautiful. Most people are average and many are not attractive.

    Obesity is not beautiful. It is unhealthy and honestly delusional.

    Edit: Most people are thinking of this when mentioning obesity.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=real+obese+people+&t=h_&iar=images

    Not this.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=heavy+rugby+players&t=fpas&iar=images

    Complaining about the BMI scale is a disservice to those who truly need to lose weight for their health.

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    Yes, but actually no. I'll not discuss taste because that's very personal, but while as a general rule obesity is unhealthy and most obese people should change their habits, the way we define obesity is with BMI, which is extremely inaccurate for very short or very tall people, not to mention bone and muscle density is different for different people, I have always (since at least 13 YO) have been in the obese category, even when I was training daily and could run a few kilometers at around 5 min per km I was obese, even though I looked only slightly overweight, the reason is because I have dense bones and at the time had lots of muscles (which are lots denser than fat). So while there's a strong correlation between being obese and being unhealthy one should be very careful not to mix the two and assume a 100% correlation or causation effect.

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    • donuts@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

      Lol you're catching some votes but we've strayed from what OP was asking.

      OP asking about beauty standards and people are straight up saying shit like "overalls" and "big boobs".

      Not bad opinions on their own but far from beauty standards

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      #102

      Big boobs are absolutely a common beauty standard. That's why breast enlargement surgery exists. Overalls are not, however.

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      • ricdeh@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        God forbid that people have opinions... Life could be fun, but we don't want that! Seriously, your only reason for existence on social media seems to make other people's day worse. That is miserable.

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        aww thank you. you just made my day hearing I make incels miserable. i hope you stay that way

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          I dislike most artificial "enhancements" to boost your attractiveness.

          Things like fake lashes, hair extensions, fake nails, breast implants, BBLs, lip injections, botox, and so on. This also extends for me to things like overly excessive tattoos, piercing, and makeup.

          I personally like people who look and feel real. I don't want to date a mannequin. It's a okay to have flaws, nobody is perfect. Your flaws are a part of your charm.

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            Yes, but actually no. I'll not discuss taste because that's very personal, but while as a general rule obesity is unhealthy and most obese people should change their habits, the way we define obesity is with BMI, which is extremely inaccurate for very short or very tall people, not to mention bone and muscle density is different for different people, I have always (since at least 13 YO) have been in the obese category, even when I was training daily and could run a few kilometers at around 5 min per km I was obese, even though I looked only slightly overweight, the reason is because I have dense bones and at the time had lots of muscles (which are lots denser than fat). So while there's a strong correlation between being obese and being unhealthy one should be very careful not to mix the two and assume a 100% correlation or causation effect.

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            I hate BMI. I am working on losing weight, but I am gaining muscle at the same rate I'm losing fat, so my weight has hardly changed. None of my clothes fit anymore and I am much slimmer, but still considered obese. I'm not even weighing myself regularly at this point. I'm just going by how I look and feel and my clothes size.

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              How are overalls beauty standard 🤣🤣🤣

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              Edit: Also, I think Karen Allen wore overalls at least once in Indiana Jones. Kinda hot, in an unpolished way.

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              • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                Lip injections make me think of those wax lips they used to give out for Halloween

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                Thanks. I've been wondering what Marilyn Manson has been up to lately.

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                • O [email protected]

                  Well, Ozempic will make you lean, but it won’t make you fit or muscular - so there’s still that. In that sense, it might be more accurate to say that the people opposing it are likely those who’ve gotten lean through dieting and occasional exercise, rather than bodybuilders.

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                  That's a good point, I was lumping too many people together there. Yes, now how will people show they "suffered" with dieting?

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                  • starlinguk@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    I agree. Then again, I'm a certified lesbian.

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                    I’m bi and I’m attracted to short hair on girls and long hair on guys hahaha

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                    • fujiwood@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                      Not everyone is beautiful. Most people are average and many are not attractive.

                      Obesity is not beautiful. It is unhealthy and honestly delusional.

                      Edit: Most people are thinking of this when mentioning obesity.

                      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=real+obese+people+&t=h_&iar=images

                      Not this.

                      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=heavy+rugby+players&t=fpas&iar=images

                      Complaining about the BMI scale is a disservice to those who truly need to lose weight for their health.

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                      #110

                      Same with being underweight. It is also not healthy or beautiful.

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                        This post is gross af

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                          I don't think that slimthick looks good

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                            Yes but the women in question expect a full, thick and groomed beard, not just maintained.

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                            I really don't think that kind of expectation is that common.

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                            • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                              I hate BMI. I am working on losing weight, but I am gaining muscle at the same rate I'm losing fat, so my weight has hardly changed. None of my clothes fit anymore and I am much slimmer, but still considered obese. I'm not even weighing myself regularly at this point. I'm just going by how I look and feel and my clothes size.

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                              Yup, don't bother too much with BMI, like I said, I've been obese all my life, even when I was in better shape than almost anyone I knew and was training and beating people that looked a lot better than me.

                              If you want to show just how absurd it is, look at the world strongest man, his BMI is 40.7 which puts him as an obese type 3, even now that I'm in the worst shape of my life I'm not in that category.

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                                I like how the standard has fractured and there isn't really a standard now, but I do also kind of like the obviously fake bodies being the standard because an insistence on natural beauty is more oppressive than the idea of beauty as something you do, an art or achievement, even a purchase.

                                If beauty like that is something you choose, I am free to choose it or not. If it's just by luck of birth, that sucks so bad. When I was a gawky tall stick insect of a teenager and the only girls considered pretty were the short and stacked, there was no way to meet that standard.

                                Later the tide shifted but as I didn't grow up feeling my body could ever be mainstream sexy, I didn't get attached to that - I do have hangups but they are my own. I just try to stay in shape, have good hair, take care of my skin and let the rest be.

                                But I think my unpopular opinion is beauty as something you do - makeup, style, fitness, is more democratic than insistence on symmetry of features or a particular height or build, the idea of "natural beauty" is worse. Beauty should be a choice, a hobby, a project, do or not.

                                In terms of what I do not currently understand, it's the moustaches. Young men with weedy little moustaches, straight men with moustaches that scream gay to me, the unopposed highway patrol/1980s gay man moustache I can't wait for that trend to pass.

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                                  Yup, don't bother too much with BMI, like I said, I've been obese all my life, even when I was in better shape than almost anyone I knew and was training and beating people that looked a lot better than me.

                                  If you want to show just how absurd it is, look at the world strongest man, his BMI is 40.7 which puts him as an obese type 3, even now that I'm in the worst shape of my life I'm not in that category.

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                                  Holy shit that's wild. Is BMI good for anything, then? Or does it need abandoned?

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                                    I can't think of a single beauty standard I do like. Everyone is beautiful in some way. Even the people who are regarded as ugly by the majority.

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                                    • launcheskayaks@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                      Holy shit that's wild. Is BMI good for anything, then? Or does it need abandoned?

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                                      It's a general guideline that's accurate for average people that live average lives, but if you're too tall, too short, too muscled, have lower or higher bone density, etc it can be very inaccurate. No doctor takes any action on this alone, but it can be a guideline to ask you for blood works or other studies to ensure things are okay. There are better ways to measure body fat percentage, but that requires special instruments and also are usually dependent on where your body stores fat, so you might not have ever done them before.

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                                      • beigeagenda@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                                        I am more into spaces, but as long as the indentation is done consistently i can tolerate tabs.

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                                        I mean, how could using tabs not be consistent when only comparing to spaces? Seems to me like spaces give infinitely more opportunity to fuck up indentation.

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                                          Yes! Thats it!

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                                          She got six eyebrows and a widows peak!

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