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[Louis Rossmann] Brother turns heel & becomes anti-consumer printer company

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  • F [email protected]

    I have VERY few and I cherish them.

    Fairphone feels great to me. I think My coffee stuff is the same (Profitec, Eureka Mignon); no app or wifi or anything, fairly available spare parts.

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    Didn't fairphone start selling Bluetooth headphones after getting rid of the headphone jack

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      Didn't fairphone start selling Bluetooth headphones after getting rid of the headphone jack

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      Sure did. Repairable ones. I strongly prefer wired headphones and will keep using them as I can, and I ain't buying earbuds.

      But I'd rather not let perfect be the enemy of good. I am not giving up a cellphone, so I'd rather have Fairphone trying (ans sometimes fucking it up) than give my money to anyone else in the market.

      Them not being perfect in my eyes doesn't qualify as a hostile relationship between their corporation and me.

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      • I [email protected]

        This shift in business model also means a drop in customer service. They used to sell you a product and stand behind it because eventually they wanted you to choose them when you needed a new or different product. Now that they have you roped in via a sort of forced dependency, they don't have to pretend to be nice to you even.

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        Exactly. The way to make money pre-Internet was "generate repeat business" and the way to do that was to create a product and service the customer was happy with.

        The way to make money now is to get the customer trapped, then pump them as hard as possible.

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        • B [email protected]

          I have a Canon color laser printer which works pretty well and doesn’t pull any of this shit. They’re probably the last one standing now.

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          I used to work for canon as a service tech. They are a wildly scummy company that routinely goes out of their way to fuck over their employees and customers.

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            Are there no good guys left?

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            I've had an Epson Ecotank for the last couple years and I have no complaints. I just refilled my black ink and it was $11 for 9 oz., which should last me years (but I don't print that often).

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            • A [email protected]

              That gives a whole new twist to "you'll own nothing and be happy"

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              Honestly, more people should probably do that. If you have a low printing volume, you'll save a lot of money by going to a store to get prints.

              Yes, you can argue that you need the convenience of having a printer right there. Just realize you're spending a lot of extra money for that convenience.

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              • O [email protected]

                You can still build it yourself.

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                AR15 lower receiver model. You can buy a kit that's 85% of the way to done and only needs basic tools from there.

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                  Sad to hear Louis is having family issues

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

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                    There are some projects out there that do the entire frame. Steppers, hotend, and control boards are out of reach. There's some hypothetical ways you could do it, but it'd be far more expensive than buying off the shelf stuff and probably get worse results. Even the frames tend to take a lot of filament.

                    It's more of a nice idea than something practical.

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                      It's funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

                      2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

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                      They're actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you'll find that's exactly what's happening. It's a tale as old as time.

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                        Framework printer.

                        Make it happen.

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                        dude I would pay gold for that

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                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                          They're actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you'll find that's exactly what's happening. It's a tale as old as time.

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                          Enshitification is the word of this century

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                            Enshitification is the word of this century

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                            Of this species.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              There are some projects out there that do the entire frame. Steppers, hotend, and control boards are out of reach. There's some hypothetical ways you could do it, but it'd be far more expensive than buying off the shelf stuff and probably get worse results. Even the frames tend to take a lot of filament.

                              It's more of a nice idea than something practical.

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                              Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

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                              • K [email protected]

                                Am I just jaded about the whole internet or does this read like an AI summary? It feels too specific to be written by a human.

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                                • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                  Brother sucks now!?

                                  Truly, this is the canary in the coal mine moment.

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                                  It's just capitalism. Don't make it more then what it is.

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                                    Future for normies: Renting everything

                                    Future for me: Rejecting everything, I will write in cuneiform on clay tablets before I rent a fucking HP printer.

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                                    Future for us: service bundling so you need to pay for shit services you don't need to get the few you do need.

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                                      It's just capitalism. Don't make it more then what it is.

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                                      I don't think I'm making it more than it is. Just can't believe the God-damned Russians got to Brother, too.

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                                        You can still build it yourself.

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                                        yeah let's build "ghost printers" wait are we in a cyberpunk dystopia?!

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                                        • Z [email protected]

                                          "Bröther, please dö nöt becöme anti-cönsümer!"

                                          "I töö yearn för the cöntrölled mönöpöly, thë ensittificätiön, the röt ecönömy!"

                                          "Brother..."

                                          "I'm leäving töö müch möney on thë täblë! We also hävë öür men Ëlön Müsk as thë shädöw prësidënt, Trümp ïs jüst hïs, ör räthër - öür püppët. Hë wïll dïsmänlë äll cönsümër prötëctïons, as thëy're in thë wäy öf öür pröfits."

                                          "Bröthër... Plëäsë rëcönsïdër!"

                                          "Änd whät ärë yöü gönnä dö if not? Go tö thë cönsümer prötection agencies Ëlön Müsk's DÖGË jüst dïsmäntlëd? Üse an öld HP LaserJet until yöü cän get repläcemënt rollers för it? You know öther parts öf it cän brëäk töö."

                                          "Bröther... You became... ËVÏL! You betrayed EVERYTHING you previously stood for!"

                                          "And Ï wïll dö it as mäny tïmes as nëëded. Ëvil? It's jüst büsïnëss. Mäybë yöü shöüld hävë rëcönsïdërëd yöür vötë för Trümp."

                                          "Bröther... Büt thë tränsës hävë cäncëlled Pikamëë för thë wïzärd gämë! The wökenëss häve been deströying the gäme ïndüstry! I nëëded tö vötë för Dönäld Trümp! Why isn't it wörkïng äs ït wäs süppösëd tö!"

                                          "Yöü vötëd ägäïnst yöür cläss interest öut öf püre hatred. I like ït vërÿ müch! Yöü knöw önë rëäsön she wäs älsö cäncelled wäs düë tö lölï? Ï dön't think Pröjëct 2025 wïll ällöw it för sö löng düë tö tötäl pörn ban!"

                                          "PLEÄSE BRÖTHËR, NÖT THE LÖLÏ! PLEÄSE LET ME KEEP THË CÜTË ÄND FÜNNŸ!"

                                          "Yöü vöted against yöür class interest, yöür personal interest... hahahahahaHAAHAHAHAHAAAA! Yöür sö fünny! Ÿöü'rë thë përfëct vötër för më! Ÿöü'rë thë përfëct cönsümër ëvën! Töö dümb tö rëälïzë äll thë pöliticäl wörkings aröünd yöürself. Änd when anything göes wröng, yöü bläme the minörities öf this söciety. Nöw get exited för Bröther AI, a sübscriptiön service which is essentiäl för öperating the printer! Get ready för price hikes! Get ready för shörter lasting printers!"

                                          "You're truly despicable bröther!"

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