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    Until they are rehabilitated though, I will treat them as maggots. Being human does not automatically grant you untouchability for your actions. It doesn't absolve you of your sins. It does not mean anyone around you must tolerate your continued existence.

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    No, I can't blame anyone for visiting harm on Nazis. But that is a temporary solution. If we are to nullify supremacist ideologies, we must eacape survival of the fittest world views. Any ideology that requires violence will be surpassed by the next strongest, including the ideology that kills Nazis and white supremacists.

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      Just like the mass murdering shooter who killed the Blackstone executive in his spree. I don’t condone mass shootings, but sometimes some good accidentally comes of it.

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        there was an old redditism that the best way to get off with murder is to use your car and call it an accident... I wonder if this is that. Get plastered, kill a nazi, go to jail for 5 years instead of 20.

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        She's going to prison for at least another 15 years before she's eligible for parole.

        But I hear you in the car accident bullshit

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          So we should just give up and become them, is what you’re saying.

          If that was your takeaway, either you need to re-read my comment, or I do because that's not at all what I meant to say.

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          You were essentially arguing that we should not show empathy to people like the guy who died because they wouldn't show empathy toward us. That is the path to fascism.

          Violence does not defeat fascism. Empathy does. Violence is effective at toppling dictators, but if that is all you do, then a new dictator will just take his place. Empathy is what stops the chain of Violence everytime. That is when strong men and women say no to Violence and yes to a better system that treats everybody with human dignity and rights. Even those whom we don't emotionally feel deserve it. A criminal who has committed a terrible crime should be locked up and not be around the public, but while he or she is in prison, he or she must still be treated as a human because they are one. If we start making exceptions we lose our humanity and take away theirs. Then we have death penalties which sometimes results in wrong convictions and wrongful executions. Emotionally, I can feel that the death penalty is justice, but that is just emotions. In reality, it is one step toward a aystem that stops seeing people as people and that shit trickles down.

          Also, having empathy for someone doesn't mean you have sympathy for them. Acknowledging that someone is a human doesn't mean you bow down to their world view.

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            Reminds me of my high school crush ngl.

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            • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

              To tell the truth I backed over the last two with my car.

              Fortunately they turned out to be Nazis.

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              Now that's a line I haven't heard since about 1991.

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                  Choices where you harm or oppress others for your own benefit means losing your humanity.

                  I will not be strong armed into giving moral weight to people whose entire existence revolves around subjugating and hurting people.

                  Just because someone is biologically human, does not mean they deserve any consideration from me. Context is king, and if you're a shit person, you can die. I'm so done with pussy fitting around these fuckwads and letting them own everything just because we don't want to be mean to them.

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                  You are missing the point. It's not about being mean or not mean. It is about acknowledging that bad people are still people. Doesn't change the fact that they suck and deserve punishment for the crimes they commit. But pretending like they aren't human is how you become like them. That is all.

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                    http://www.kentucky.com/latest-news/article212807354.html#amp_tf=From+%251%24s&aoh=17539183945312&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

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                      Her inmate photo is something else. Sadly she got like 15 years. Free my girl.

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                        there was an old redditism that the best way to get off with murder is to use your car and call it an accident... I wonder if this is that. Get plastered, kill a nazi, go to jail for 5 years instead of 20.

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                        I'd buy her a drink!

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                        • socsa@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                          If this situation was reversed, MAGA would have raised $100k for her legal defense by now.

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                          She would have been pardoned by the President lol

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                            See what my Christian God did for you?

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                              John Brown would be so proud!

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                                My grandfather killed a nazi and became a hero. Ms. Sherry does it and she becomes the enemy. That doesn't seem fair.

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                                  No, you're just trying to shame people celebarating bad people no longer being bad people. Congratulations on utterly failing to understand what I said at all.

                                  You are failing to understand the ugly reality of the paradox of tolerance. It is a paradox NOT for where it starts, but for where it ends. If you cannot even celebrate demonstrably horrible ideologies taking losses, then again, you are FAILING the paradox of tolerance.

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                                  You need to work on your reading comprehension. I have said absolutely nothing about whether or not to celebrate the death of a nazi, neither does the paradox of tolerance.

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                                    can you imagine trying to repent and make amends for this one, and every loved one of that asshole is just as bad as they are.

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                                    The good thing about forgiveness is that it doesn't have to be actually granted in order for the person to see the errors in their way and meaningfully repent. Works the other way too, you don't have to forgive anyone for anything ever (though that can arguably be harmful to yourself).

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                                      Let them eat eachother.

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                                        The problem is that fascists know that normal people are empathetic in this way, and they use it against us. It makes it nearly impossible to stop them (without violence).

                                        At some point you're just bowing down to murderous psychopaths who literally want you dead.

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                                        If someone this to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!

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                                          You need to work on your reading comprehension. I have said absolutely nothing about whether or not to celebrate the death of a nazi, neither does the paradox of tolerance.

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                                          Where did I say celebrate death? I said the horrible ideology took a loss. and you claim I'm the one that needs to work on reading comprehension...

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