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    Based booze cruiser fights fascism

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      I agree with all you wrote, and it's a good point well made. However, in the context of what it's replying to, it could be interpreted as condoning the death penalty for extremists, which I disagree with, if it was intended that way.

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      Death penalty, but more likely death in combat while trying to oust them from society. Like was done in WWII. These fuckers aren't going anywhere voluntarily, it will take violence to remove them from society.

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        In Italy there's been a big push against this in the last decade.

        There's now a law called "road murder" (omicidio stradale) which makes the penalties for killing someone while driving, especially if intoxicated, more similar to intentional murder (rather than manslaughter). It's essentially aggravated manslaughter, when you cause the death of someone while driving recklessly.

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        That's brilliant.

        Honestly I'd push for a change in law such that a crash between a car and a more vulnerable road user is legally presumed to be the car's fault unless evidence is provided to the contrary. The big problem we've had far too many times where I live, and in many other parts of the world, is that because you can't prove the driver was riding negligently (or more to the point: because you can't convince a car-brained jury pool or judge panel to find that they were negligent), far too often they get off scott-free.

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          Her inmate photo is something else. Sadly she got like 15 years. Free my girl.

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          She seems happy about it? Also shouldn't her name be kept private? Are convicts details to be public knowledge?

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          • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

            That's brilliant.

            Honestly I'd push for a change in law such that a crash between a car and a more vulnerable road user is legally presumed to be the car's fault unless evidence is provided to the contrary. The big problem we've had far too many times where I live, and in many other parts of the world, is that because you can't prove the driver was riding negligently (or more to the point: because you can't convince a car-brained jury pool or judge panel to find that they were negligent), far too often they get off scott-free.

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            Generally speaking, here it's often presumed that it's the car's fault, or at least that's how I feel it's perceived.

            Still, negligent driving includes DUI, driving while on the phone, driving too fast, driving in the opposite lane, not stopping to a red light or yield, illegal passing of another car and failing to stop after the incident occurred.

            Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l, with possible jail time from 6 months to a year.

            It's become quite strict. Although I'm not sure how much it will actually affect the number of incidents, I'm not always very pro to "just increase the penalties" kind of laws. We need a more comprehensive plan to reduce the likelihood of incidents as much as possible, especially deadly incidents.

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              She seems happy about it? Also shouldn't her name be kept private? Are convicts details to be public knowledge?

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              It is public information yes (though it does depend on the state).

              For example in Nevada (not related to her, just the state I'm in): https://doc.nv.gov/inmates/home/

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                She seems happy about it? Also shouldn't her name be kept private? Are convicts details to be public knowledge?

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                i dont know all the details but states have different laws regarding privacy for criminals. Florida for instance does not have many protections which is why so many local stories about crime come from there

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                  She seems happy about it? Also shouldn't her name be kept private? Are convicts details to be public knowledge?

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                  It's in the article, it's public.

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                    Except I'm not. My scope has been very limited to the dehumanization aspect. But otherwise I'm done with you arguing in bad faith

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                    I'm not arguing in bad faith for disagreeing with you... rofl what a pathetically childish attitude you have. No wonder you don't understand this conversation nor the paradox of tolerance.

                    Give it a few years. You'll come to realize terrible people bring far, far more ugly things in to the world than a simple celebration of hateful shitstains meeting the dirt.

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                      Jumping back here to say that

                      we need to ALWAYS remember the sheer depravity other human beings are capable of.

                      Is the only thing I'm saying

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                      Again, just because they are also humna beings does NOT mean they deserve respect or even life.

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                        My grandfather killed a nazi and became a hero. Ms. Sherry does it and she becomes the enemy. That doesn't seem fair.

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                        The difference is that your grandfather aimed at Nazis where as this bitch was just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

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                          Yeah, I get the hurr durr, but this bitch is just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

                          Fuck this bitch, let her rot in jail. Just bect she got lucky doesn't make any of this better

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                            ::: spoiler controversial opinion
                            These nazi racist fuckheads are still human beings. As unfortunate as it may be and as implausible it might seem, any of us are capable of becoming or raising someone to become entrenched in a bad and hateful ideology. Dehumanizing them doesn't stop their ideas from spreading. In fact, a big part of their ideology is the dehumanization of different groups of people. So please don't encourage that practice.
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                            This. Dehumanizing people, even the scum of the world, is not good or justified.

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                              Mike! Post the .gif!

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                                The difference is that your grandfather aimed at Nazis where as this bitch was just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

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                                Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                                  Your grandfather went to war to protect the world from a global enemy. Mr. Sherry got drunk and drove on the way killing a nazi. These two things are not even close to be the same. Lets just be happy a nazi died. No need to justify DUI.

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                                  This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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                                    It does. When you did not discriminate but happen to do the "right" thing you are not to praise.

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                                    This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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                                      Yeah, I get the hurr durr, but this bitch is just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

                                      Fuck this bitch, let her rot in jail. Just bect she got lucky doesn't make any of this better

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                                      100% these are the posts that give Trump supporters ammo. Lemmy attacks anyone who supports a mildly right stanced political party but then celebrates a drunk fuckwit killing someone in a DUI crash.

                                      The mind boggles.

                                      P.s. my prediction is a bunch of people who are too stupid to understand written word and nuance will take this as Trump support and go off.

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                                        You know I wanted to at least enjoy that a Nazi was unable to Nazi anymore considering the overwhelming number of Nazis today, only to discover the girl killed him in 2018.

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          Your grandfather went to war to protect the world from a global enemy. Mr. Sherry got drunk and drove on the way killing a nazi. These two things are not even close to be the same. Lets just be happy a nazi died. No need to justify DUI.

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                                          I mean despite your very reasonable logic, she did manage to remove a member of the global enemy ideology, but I'm really really straining to push that connection

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