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    ::: spoiler controversial opinion
    These nazi racist fuckheads are still human beings. As unfortunate as it may be and as implausible it might seem, any of us are capable of becoming or raising someone to become entrenched in a bad and hateful ideology. Dehumanizing them doesn't stop their ideas from spreading. In fact, a big part of their ideology is the dehumanization of different groups of people. So please don't encourage that practice.
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    This. Dehumanizing people, even the scum of the world, is not good or justified.

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      Mike! Post the .gif!

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        The difference is that your grandfather aimed at Nazis where as this bitch was just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

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        Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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          Your grandfather went to war to protect the world from a global enemy. Mr. Sherry got drunk and drove on the way killing a nazi. These two things are not even close to be the same. Lets just be happy a nazi died. No need to justify DUI.

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          This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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            It does. When you did not discriminate but happen to do the "right" thing you are not to praise.

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            This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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              Yeah, I get the hurr durr, but this bitch is just your average day red neck trash who doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and doesn't give a shit of she kills a Nazi or a little child.

              Fuck this bitch, let her rot in jail. Just bect she got lucky doesn't make any of this better

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              100% these are the posts that give Trump supporters ammo. Lemmy attacks anyone who supports a mildly right stanced political party but then celebrates a drunk fuckwit killing someone in a DUI crash.

              The mind boggles.

              P.s. my prediction is a bunch of people who are too stupid to understand written word and nuance will take this as Trump support and go off.

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                You know I wanted to at least enjoy that a Nazi was unable to Nazi anymore considering the overwhelming number of Nazis today, only to discover the girl killed him in 2018.

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                  Your grandfather went to war to protect the world from a global enemy. Mr. Sherry got drunk and drove on the way killing a nazi. These two things are not even close to be the same. Lets just be happy a nazi died. No need to justify DUI.

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                  I mean despite your very reasonable logic, she did manage to remove a member of the global enemy ideology, but I'm really really straining to push that connection

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                    He did nazi her coming.

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                      i dont know all the details but states have different laws regarding privacy for criminals. Florida for instance does not have many protections which is why so many local stories about crime come from there

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                      Florida Man

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                        Just like the mass murdering shooter who killed the Blackstone executive in his spree. I don’t condone mass shootings, but sometimes some good accidentally comes of it.

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                        So I get the thought, and fuck billionaires, but did any real "good" precipitate from this? It's not like her position and the negative consequences of that position don't exist anymore. They'll just hire someone else who will be willing to sell their soul for the money. All that happened because of this is they're going to ratchet up security..

                        Even the United health guy even if he's not there the next guy is going to make the same decisions because ultimately there's only one decision you can make if you're only goal is to raise the stock price next guy is going to do the same thing, we're treating the symptom not the cause.

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                          So I get the thought, and fuck billionaires, but did any real "good" precipitate from this? It's not like her position and the negative consequences of that position don't exist anymore. They'll just hire someone else who will be willing to sell their soul for the money. All that happened because of this is they're going to ratchet up security..

                          Even the United health guy even if he's not there the next guy is going to make the same decisions because ultimately there's only one decision you can make if you're only goal is to raise the stock price next guy is going to do the same thing, we're treating the symptom not the cause.

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                          Enough of them start paying for their actions - they won’t be able to fill the position. Plus, any skilled job takes time to replace a trained worker so it slows their parasitic plans. It’d be better for it to happen to actual billionaires like Peter Theil. Consequences for actions give people pause when they push too far. The rich are seeing no consequences, it’s why they have become so bold. Fear is a powerful motivator. Narcissists only fear things that directly affect them. Plus, it’s not like this was a good woman. Her job was to buy up all the housing she could and jack up rents for as much profit as possible. This directly causes homelessness which kills tons of people. Just because you call it business doesn’t mean it’s not evil. The scale of this type of investing is a direct cause of the housing crisis.

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                            100% these are the posts that give Trump supporters ammo. Lemmy attacks anyone who supports a mildly right stanced political party but then celebrates a drunk fuckwit killing someone in a DUI crash.

                            The mind boggles.

                            P.s. my prediction is a bunch of people who are too stupid to understand written word and nuance will take this as Trump support and go off.

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                            Ammo for the people acclaiming cars ramming into crowds of peaceful protestors?

                            Oh no! anyways...

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                              ::: spoiler controversial opinion
                              These nazi racist fuckheads are still human beings. As unfortunate as it may be and as implausible it might seem, any of us are capable of becoming or raising someone to become entrenched in a bad and hateful ideology. Dehumanizing them doesn't stop their ideas from spreading. In fact, a big part of their ideology is the dehumanization of different groups of people. So please don't encourage that practice.
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                              ^reddit chud

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                                This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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                                You can't possibly expect everyone to know all the lines of all the shows, do you?

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                                  Generally speaking, here it's often presumed that it's the car's fault, or at least that's how I feel it's perceived.

                                  Still, negligent driving includes DUI, driving while on the phone, driving too fast, driving in the opposite lane, not stopping to a red light or yield, illegal passing of another car and failing to stop after the incident occurred.

                                  Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l, with possible jail time from 6 months to a year.

                                  It's become quite strict. Although I'm not sure how much it will actually affect the number of incidents, I'm not always very pro to "just increase the penalties" kind of laws. We need a more comprehensive plan to reduce the likelihood of incidents as much as possible, especially deadly incidents.

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                                  here it’s often presumed that it’s the car’s fault

                                  By people and the media, or by the law? Because those are definitely not the same.

                                  Though unfortunately in most of the anglosphere, the answer is that the average person will presume it's the *non-*car-driver's fault, and the law will make no presumption either way (which has the effect of letting drivers get off).

                                  Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l

                                  Wow that's really cool! Is 0.8 g/L the only level of BAC that's used in Italian law? Or are there like, other lower thresholds with less legal severity? I ask because, assuming 0.8 g/L is the same as a 0.08% BAC, that seems really high. For context, in carbrained Australia the limit is .05.

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                                    here it’s often presumed that it’s the car’s fault

                                    By people and the media, or by the law? Because those are definitely not the same.

                                    Though unfortunately in most of the anglosphere, the answer is that the average person will presume it's the *non-*car-driver's fault, and the law will make no presumption either way (which has the effect of letting drivers get off).

                                    Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l

                                    Wow that's really cool! Is 0.8 g/L the only level of BAC that's used in Italian law? Or are there like, other lower thresholds with less legal severity? I ask because, assuming 0.8 g/L is the same as a 0.08% BAC, that seems really high. For context, in carbrained Australia the limit is .05.

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                                    Not a lawyer, so I'm not sure about the law, but generally speaking the perception I get (ie what people say) is that "it's always your fault" when speaking to drivers. Btw, this doesn't mean that streets are any safer for cyclists or people walking or that people driver any better. This is why I'm not always in favor of laws that just add more penalties, but fail to do any structural changes.

                                    As for alcohol level, the law says under 0.5 g/l is fine, between 0.5 and 0.8 it's a minor infraction (fine and possible license suspension), between 0.8 and 1.5 it becomes a criminal offense, with bigger fine, longer license suspension and jail up to 6 months, and over 1.5 g/l it's still bigger fine, longer suspension, up to a year of jail etc. Then there are the aggravating circumstances, like if you also cause an accident, it's doubled, if it's a repeat offender there's the revocation of the license etc.

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                                      You know I wanted to at least enjoy that a Nazi was unable to Nazi anymore considering the overwhelming number of Nazis today, only to discover the girl killed him in 2018.

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                                      Better late than never.

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                                        Why do you think considering someone human is mutually exclusive with wishing death upon them/thinking it's fine for them to die.

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                                        Persecution fetish exists regardless how you treat them. Some just WANT to feel persecuted to feel like they have some kind of casus belli.

                                        Also, you either experience and/or witness enough bigotry that you reach a point of being fucking done with the hateful spiteful pieces of shit. Apparently you're too privileged to have to care.

                                        But let me try to make this clear again. I grew up in it. I saw it. I know and love people today who go through it. There are those who think it's just okay to decide some groups of people don't warrant humanity and to even outwardly work to make those people's lives harder or straight up fucking oppress or harm them.

                                        Fuck. Them. All. Everyone who has even an ounce of racist white supremacist Aryan whatever the fuck thoughts or actions. Fuck their flags. Fuck their views. Fuck their lives. Fuck everything about them. Scum of the earth. The vast majority will never change. Fuck em.

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