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    This ... was a spin on the line that Wanda speaks to Strange in Multiverse of Madness.

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    You can't possibly expect everyone to know all the lines of all the shows, do you?

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      Generally speaking, here it's often presumed that it's the car's fault, or at least that's how I feel it's perceived.

      Still, negligent driving includes DUI, driving while on the phone, driving too fast, driving in the opposite lane, not stopping to a red light or yield, illegal passing of another car and failing to stop after the incident occurred.

      Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l, with possible jail time from 6 months to a year.

      It's become quite strict. Although I'm not sure how much it will actually affect the number of incidents, I'm not always very pro to "just increase the penalties" kind of laws. We need a more comprehensive plan to reduce the likelihood of incidents as much as possible, especially deadly incidents.

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      here it’s often presumed that it’s the car’s fault

      By people and the media, or by the law? Because those are definitely not the same.

      Though unfortunately in most of the anglosphere, the answer is that the average person will presume it's the *non-*car-driver's fault, and the law will make no presumption either way (which has the effect of letting drivers get off).

      Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l

      Wow that's really cool! Is 0.8 g/L the only level of BAC that's used in Italian law? Or are there like, other lower thresholds with less legal severity? I ask because, assuming 0.8 g/L is the same as a 0.08% BAC, that seems really high. For context, in carbrained Australia the limit is .05.

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        here it’s often presumed that it’s the car’s fault

        By people and the media, or by the law? Because those are definitely not the same.

        Though unfortunately in most of the anglosphere, the answer is that the average person will presume it's the *non-*car-driver's fault, and the law will make no presumption either way (which has the effect of letting drivers get off).

        Moreover, the law now specifies that DUI is a criminal offense even when no incident occurred and blood level of alcohol is above 0.8 g/l

        Wow that's really cool! Is 0.8 g/L the only level of BAC that's used in Italian law? Or are there like, other lower thresholds with less legal severity? I ask because, assuming 0.8 g/L is the same as a 0.08% BAC, that seems really high. For context, in carbrained Australia the limit is .05.

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        Not a lawyer, so I'm not sure about the law, but generally speaking the perception I get (ie what people say) is that "it's always your fault" when speaking to drivers. Btw, this doesn't mean that streets are any safer for cyclists or people walking or that people driver any better. This is why I'm not always in favor of laws that just add more penalties, but fail to do any structural changes.

        As for alcohol level, the law says under 0.5 g/l is fine, between 0.5 and 0.8 it's a minor infraction (fine and possible license suspension), between 0.8 and 1.5 it becomes a criminal offense, with bigger fine, longer license suspension and jail up to 6 months, and over 1.5 g/l it's still bigger fine, longer suspension, up to a year of jail etc. Then there are the aggravating circumstances, like if you also cause an accident, it's doubled, if it's a repeat offender there's the revocation of the license etc.

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          You know I wanted to at least enjoy that a Nazi was unable to Nazi anymore considering the overwhelming number of Nazis today, only to discover the girl killed him in 2018.

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          Better late than never.

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            Why do you think considering someone human is mutually exclusive with wishing death upon them/thinking it's fine for them to die.

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            Persecution fetish exists regardless how you treat them. Some just WANT to feel persecuted to feel like they have some kind of casus belli.

            Also, you either experience and/or witness enough bigotry that you reach a point of being fucking done with the hateful spiteful pieces of shit. Apparently you're too privileged to have to care.

            But let me try to make this clear again. I grew up in it. I saw it. I know and love people today who go through it. There are those who think it's just okay to decide some groups of people don't warrant humanity and to even outwardly work to make those people's lives harder or straight up fucking oppress or harm them.

            Fuck. Them. All. Everyone who has even an ounce of racist white supremacist Aryan whatever the fuck thoughts or actions. Fuck their flags. Fuck their views. Fuck their lives. Fuck everything about them. Scum of the earth. The vast majority will never change. Fuck em.

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