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    I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

    I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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    I've had this thought before, but have also wondered whether it's even possible to implement this using ActivityPub, considering that a wiki inherently requires having the same state everywhere, but ActivityPub allows instances to ban and defederate how they like (thus become desynchronized from each other).

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    • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

      It's not federated, but something like BookStack could be an option for self-hosted collaboration.

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      Easy hosting isn't quite the issue. Dokuwiki is trivial to self host. What I'd like something that's a happy medium between requiring account creation to edit pages and letting literally every rando with an IP address go to town.

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        Easy hosting isn't quite the issue. Dokuwiki is trivial to self host. What I'd like something that's a happy medium between requiring account creation to edit pages and letting literally every rando with an IP address go to town.

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        I wonder if it could be done with a MediaWiki plugin, given how extensible MW and its plugin system is

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          I've had this thought before, but have also wondered whether it's even possible to implement this using ActivityPub, considering that a wiki inherently requires having the same state everywhere, but ActivityPub allows instances to ban and defederate how they like (thus become desynchronized from each other).

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          I'm not thinking of a single distributed wiki, but something more like Fandom where you can edit pages on other wikis that are federated to yours.

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            I've had this thought before, but have also wondered whether it's even possible to implement this using ActivityPub, considering that a wiki inherently requires having the same state everywhere, but ActivityPub allows instances to ban and defederate how they like (thus become desynchronized from each other).

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            https://ibis.wiki/

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            • ? Guest

              I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

              I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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              https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                Yeah, that could definitely be cool.

                Cost would be a big factor ... Fandom got big by being free and eventually replaced (or heavily customized) mediawiki to the point it's unrecognizable.

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  https://ibis.wiki/

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                  I see, thanks. Will look into that.

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                  • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                    https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                    This is the answer.

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                    • ? Guest

                      I'm not thinking of a single distributed wiki, but something more like Fandom where you can edit pages on other wikis that are federated to yours.

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                      That doesn't sound like a federated wiki but more like federated account management.

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                        Yeah, that could definitely be cool.

                        Cost would be a big factor ... Fandom got big by being free and eventually replaced (or heavily customized) mediawiki to the point it's unrecognizable.

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                        Hosting a wiki isn't that expensive it's basically texts and some lightweight pictures. The whole english wikipedia is around 109GB of data.

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                          I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                          I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                          This is another example of the type of thing it would be great for conventions and clubs and such to host.

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                            It's not federated, but something like BookStack could be an option for self-hosted collaboration.

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                            Or maybe Miraheze but it doesn't sem federated either

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                              I've had this thought before, but have also wondered whether it's even possible to implement this using ActivityPub, considering that a wiki inherently requires having the same state everywhere, but ActivityPub allows instances to ban and defederate how they like (thus become desynchronized from each other).

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                              I mean most fandom I have seen have more than one wiki as there is more than one wiki company.

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                                https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                                It wouod be amazing to see Ibis take off and pick up more developers

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                                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                  https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                                  Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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                                    I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                                    I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                                    It's not federated by any means, but if you want to replace FANDOM wikis with other equivalents, Indie Wiki Buddy is a great extension to have on hand.

                                    https://getindie.wiki

                                    There's options to remove FANDOM from search results in favour of other options, and they also allow you to redirect to the Breezewiki frontend for FANDOM to get rid of all those shitty ads and UI, which is legal considering the contents of FANDOM pages are still under the Commons.

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                                      I'm not thinking of a single distributed wiki, but something more like Fandom where you can edit pages on other wikis that are federated to yours.

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                                      Sounds like single sign-on (SSO). Which is practically everywhere these days.

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                                        I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                                        I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                                        Hubzilla (macroblogging service in the Fediverse) can also be used to create and collaborate on wikis.

                                        I can only find a German-language manual for this right away: https://help.hubzilla.hu/benutzerhandbuch/wikis.html

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                                          I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                                          I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                                          Ward Cunningham has written a federated wiki.

                                          https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/

                                          https://github.com/fedwiki

                                          http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors

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