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Revealed: Thousands of UK university students caught cheating using AI

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  • P [email protected]

    The certificate is valuable i suppose, lot of job required that cert to even get a glance with the application. After that, they just gonna try their luck with bullshitting and sucking up to their higher up.

    Or maybe they just like the university life and doesn't want to look like they're slacking for another few years.

    Either way, yikes.

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    employers often dont check, they look for certificate, x years of experience,,,etc.

    only certain jobs require more scrutiny though.

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    • S [email protected]

      If using ChatGPT for tests is cheating, I’d argue calculators are cheating for math.. it’s just another tool at people’s disposal as far as I’m concerned.

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      calculators isnt a computer where you can search up the answers lol. its literally plug in a formula and numbers and it spits out whatever you input, it doesnt give you the answer to a question. Also many math questions are abstracts, so you have to discern the correct forumla/mathematics to use.

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      • M [email protected]

        Not from UK and also not a student, but imo this is more a school problem than the students. The teachers just do not understand how to cope with AI. With open note exam and traditional exam style questions, I would be an idiot if I do use AI.

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        professors were already on the bordering of using AI, when before they just use software to look at your essay and any cheating it might detect.

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        • jacksonlamb@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

          We are indeed. Not looking forward to my old age, where doctors, accountants, and engineers cheated their way into being qualified by using a glorified autocorrect.

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          doctors and engineer is probably much harder to cheat, because you would need to apply the knowlege hands on basis, and you would be found out and washe dout eventually. i can see fields that require alot of writing, oriignally people were hired to write thier prompts or essay pre-lawyer, or whatever but they always get caught down the line.

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          • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

            Have you seen the cost of tuition? Hire more professors and smaller classes.

            Anyways, undergrad isn’t even that important in the grand scheme of things. Let people cheat and let that show when they apply for entry level jobs or higher education. If they can be successful after cheating in undergrad, then does it even matter?

            When you get to grad school and beyond is what really matters. Speaking from a US perspective.

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            hire more? alot of universities are quite stingy as they dont want to have too many tenures, they are infact trying to reduce that trend. some are also cutting back because enrollment issues in some areas.

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            • R [email protected]

              This is mostly the purpose of my homework. I assign daily homework. I don't expect students to get the correct answers but instead attempt them and then come to class with questions. My lectures are typically short so that i can dedicate class time to solving problems and homework assignments.

              I always open my class with "does anyone have any questions on the homework?". Prior chatgpt, students would ask me to go through all the homework, since much of my homework is difficult. Last semester though, with so many students using chatgpt, they rarely asked me about the homework... I would often follow up with "Really? No questions at all?"

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              once the tests, final exams come around you will pretty much guessed who used AI, and are likely to fail out the major.

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              • M [email protected]

                "Let them cheat"

                I mean, yeah, that's one way to go. You could say "the students who cheat are only cheating themselves" as well. And you'd be half right about that.

                I see most often that there are two reasons that we see articles from professors who are waving the warning flags. First is that these students aren't just cheating themselves. There are only so many spots available for post-grad work or jobs that require a degree. Folks who are actually putting the time into learning the material are being drowned in a sea of folks who have gotten just as far without doing so.

                And the second reason I think is more important. Many of these professors have dedicated their lives to teaching their subject to the next generation. They want to help others learn. That is being compromised by a massively disruptive technology. the article linked here provides evidence of that, and therefore deserves more than just a casual "teach better! the tech isn't going away"

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                its quite limited in stems, because the employers themselves are lazy, and dont want to train fresh grad so they require years of experience in specific skills to even consider you by the time you GRADUATE from school, plus they already have ways to screen people out anyways, which is where the majority of complaints is. also most schools wont advertise thier hands on volunteering labs/.research to student, so people are in a limbo, where do they get experience.

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                • circav@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                  No shit. I’m in postsecondary as an instructor and it is so beyond frustrating . They all use it, they don’t want to read or learn.

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                  None of our institutions encourage "learning"; they are built to encourage "making the grade". Why they need the grade and what it represents is irrelevant to students. It's just a barrier that society has placed in front of them.

                  There needs to be something done about how we, as a society, approach education because whatever we are doing ain't working. It apparently only worked at a very surface level and that was only because A.I. wasn't available yet to be an easy out.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    doctors and engineer is probably much harder to cheat, because you would need to apply the knowlege hands on basis, and you would be found out and washe dout eventually. i can see fields that require alot of writing, oriignally people were hired to write thier prompts or essay pre-lawyer, or whatever but they always get caught down the line.

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                    We live in a world where this building was signed off on and built, and that was before AI, so multiple incompetent people are getting through engineering.

                    As for incompetent doctors there is now an agency tasked with catching them.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      Who's going into debt to be at university in the UK?

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                      Here you go:
                      "Students in England now graduate with average debt of £53,000, data shows"
                      https://piefed.social/post/961417
                      https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/jun/20/students-in-england-graduate-average-debt-increase

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