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  • ellvix@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

    Hopefully. ghostrider2112 seems like a decent dude.

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    lol thanks from a white guy in Ohio, USA that loves all, even those who hate.

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      Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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        It is incredibly frustrating to see for example Ursula Von der Leyen preaching "EU STRONG" stuff on fucking shitter. Really? This is your way of showing how strong the EU is and we shouldn't or can't rely on USA? By posting your I'm strong message on the precise platform the US chief nazification officer owns? FFS.

        If all EU governments together decide to ditch shitter and move to mastodon instances, media follows. It's a pretty cheap measure to implement, too.

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        EU really should ban Twitter. US social media has turned out to be incredibly dangerous with algorithm manipulation with the best evidence being the US and their election and people.

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        • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

          I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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          I hear echo chamber brought up a lot but never really have seen examples of a place that doesn't have an echo chamber.

          I think that's just the natural result of people forming communities as opposed seeking out battle grounds for adversaries.

          Only thing that can be done is offering people the tools to freely form as many communities as they want with the main barrier being who feels compelled to join the new echo chamber community.

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          • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

            Niche communities are awesome ! Sadly reddit is still the king in this aspect.

            Maybe in a few years lemmy will reach that level or even surpass it... One can dream.

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            It is interesting that forums had less people but felt very active and didn't need the millions of people that places like modern day social media do.

            And I think big part of it is the presentation of material with threads that get bumped up when people comment and can keep going on for years.

            In reddit type social media a thread is considered dead after like a day or less, so needing a new one even if it is the same topic to start up conversation again. Even more the case for one off comment type social media like mastodon.

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              Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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              Guess you never used forums.

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                Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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                Less bots, more genuine conversations, it’s also not as fast-paced as other social medias.

                It’s great. It feels like a forum from back in late 2000s / early 2010 and I like it

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                  anyone got tips for finding quality memes on mastodon? i love the philosophy of the service, but i have 0 interest in reading political takes from strangers all day, and right now it feels like all i see on the “trending” page is people complaining about politics. i just want to escape the bad news and laugh a little, not get mad at my phone anytime i open the app

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                    It is interesting that forums had less people but felt very active and didn't need the millions of people that places like modern day social media do.

                    And I think big part of it is the presentation of material with threads that get bumped up when people comment and can keep going on for years.

                    In reddit type social media a thread is considered dead after like a day or less, so needing a new one even if it is the same topic to start up conversation again. Even more the case for one off comment type social media like mastodon.

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                    Oh yeah forums are pretty cool. It's like a massive treasure chest you can sort through. I still enjoy using a few forums like Gamerfaqs and XDA developers.

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                      Another thing is google results. When I want a recommendation for anything I will add “Reddit” to my query. This is because I know it will return great recommendations and conversations that help me decide. Hopefully I will eventually be able to just use Lemmy for this.

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                      In case you didn't know, You can get lemmy posts by adding the following to a search query -

                      site:lemmy.world
                      

                      You can replace "lemmy.world" with the lemmy instance url of your choosing (or any url for that matter).

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                      • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

                        Niche communities are awesome ! Sadly reddit is still the king in this aspect.

                        Maybe in a few years lemmy will reach that level or even surpass it... One can dream.

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                        I used to spend tons of time on forums 20 or so years ago. Social media killed many of those off, but there’s no reason that something else can’t do the same thing - be it Lemmy communities or something else.

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                          Less bots, more genuine conversations, it’s also not as fast-paced as other social medias.

                          It’s great. It feels like a forum from back in late 2000s / early 2010 and I like it

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                          And even when it gets heated, people still seem to listen and not just performatively push agendas. Seen more "fair enough"s than in years of Reddit.

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                            I’m not a fan of mastodon because it really does feel a lot like other social media sites, I don’t really like any form of advertising, whether it’s intentional or unintentional. People post too much bullshit trying to gain followers. I never cared much for twitter/facebook/instagram anyway.

                            Lemmy however is a better replacement for Reddit, so far. I remember when Reddit was the replacement and now look at it, a big steaming pile of ads and bots, power tripping admin and moderators, killed 3rd party apps that made the site useable. Hopefully lemmy can remain the same as it is now.

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                              And even when it gets heated, people still seem to listen and not just performatively push agendas. Seen more "fair enough"s than in years of Reddit.

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                              Absolutely. People treat eachother like they treat others irl.

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                                I’m not a fan of mastodon because it really does feel a lot like other social media sites, I don’t really like any form of advertising, whether it’s intentional or unintentional. People post too much bullshit trying to gain followers. I never cared much for twitter/facebook/instagram anyway.

                                Lemmy however is a better replacement for Reddit, so far. I remember when Reddit was the replacement and now look at it, a big steaming pile of ads and bots, power tripping admin and moderators, killed 3rd party apps that made the site useable. Hopefully lemmy can remain the same as it is now.

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                                My fear is that, if lemmy gets too successful, that regarding bots the same fate may occur.

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                                  Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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                                  Yeah though I think it's a little bit too political at times. I get it, Trump and Musk is destroying the USA from within, but I don't need to read about it in every second post...

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                                    My fear is that, if lemmy gets too successful, that regarding bots the same fate may occur.

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                                    Typically if you're gonna deploy a bunch of bots on lemmy, it's easiest to do via your own instance, which is fairly easy to filter out.

                                    Luckily the federated aspect will help with this a little bit.

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                                      Typically if you're gonna deploy a bunch of bots on lemmy, it's easiest to do via your own instance, which is fairly easy to filter out.

                                      Luckily the federated aspect will help with this a little bit.

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                                      Right, but you can also create accounts on different instances, so not really protected. Actually I think it's very difficult to really filter bots when they're done right, especially in times where LLMs start to be increasingly more popular.

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                                        anyone got tips for finding quality memes on mastodon? i love the philosophy of the service, but i have 0 interest in reading political takes from strangers all day, and right now it feels like all i see on the “trending” page is people complaining about politics. i just want to escape the bad news and laugh a little, not get mad at my phone anytime i open the app

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                                        Tell me when you found some :‘D

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                                          Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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                                          I wouldn't mind a little faster paced fwiw, the conversation can stagnate a bit sometimes, but it is what it is.

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