Who remembers this?
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I can't remember the pairs of colors that are supposed to be. Were blue/black and golden/white?
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Woops
I missed that; bit of a sensitive topic atm...
Why are people downvoting someone for admitting they made a mistake? It takes some courage to do that.
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Plz sned beans ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Zuni Gold beans with White Cannellini Beans or Black beans with Nonna Agnes Blue Beans?
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It appears white/gold to me on it's own, I've never been able to see anything different.
Grabbing this specific image and sampling the colours though; they appear more of a grey/brown colour. I can sorta maybe understand blue, but definitely not black.
This is just using Polish photo editor on android:
The point has never been about the actual pixel color codes. It's about how human perception doesn't follow those objective metrics.
Distilled down, we perceive color and brightness in comparison to the surrounding scene. The checker shadow illusion is a clear example of the same color looking different.
So the color perception on the dress depends on how the brain decides to color correct the white balance of the scene.
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Never understood this one, or believed anyone who said they saw black/blue. You can zoom in and colour pick, the colours are measurable and objectively gold and blue-white.
When you look at the checker shadow illusion, do you see the pixels as identical in color? If not, then obviously there's more to human perception than just the color of the pixel code.
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No, what happened is that a bunch of people were shown to be objectively wrong about what color it was, and couldn't let it go.
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It was always black and blue, but I've always found it fun to switch back and forth between which color combination it was. It was also a fun phenomena, but I don't like that it was ten years+ ago now. Time moves a bit too fast.
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ITT: people telling other people they're trolling rather than accepting that humans can perceive reality differently, and the own perception is never objective.
"humans can perceive reality differently", yea, that's true, but the thing with the dress picture is that it's so obvious that there is a bright white light, that people doesn't see it, like, never in it's entire life have ever use a flashlight or somelight like that and see how shuch kind of light can get colors brighter. We have the sun, damnit. If the light in the picture were more blue or purple like, the dress would be more darker, BUT! if the dress were actually white and golden/yellow,with the light said before, would be getting the same result, but it's not the case.
"humans can perceive reality differently", yea, but this is not of one cases
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Because no one has posted the other photos:
And this is a photo of the same dress taken under proper lighting:
wrote last edited by [email protected]Left: blue and black.
Middle: light blue and black.
Right: dark blue and black.The dress is blue and black. It will never be white or gold. The lighting or saturation doesn't matter.
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The "white" pixels are literally blue. The "black" ones can be considered gold due to the lighting.
You missed the whole point. If I take a white dress and then shine a blue lamp on it, then take a photo.The pixels will be 100% blue, but would that mean the dress itself is blue?
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I can't remember the pairs of colors that are supposed to be. Were blue/black and golden/white?
Congratulations, you remembered.
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This didn’t “reveal differences in human perception”. Those differences were well known already. What was lacking - and still is, as far as I know - is a good model of human colour perception.
I think everyone knew about how human perception subconsciously color corrects a particular image, but this was shocking in that there was genuine disagreement between people who simply couldn't see it the other way.
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I've only ever seen it as blue and black. I can't force it the other way like I could with Laurel and Yani. Y'all seeing white and gold astound me.
I still think the white and gold people are trolling.
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I can sort of change it. Probably just my TN monitor though.
wrote last edited by [email protected]This was always the real trick. If you have a laptop you can probably tilt your screen to make it change between the two. What angle you use your screen at affects your perception.
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When you look at the checker shadow illusion, do you see the pixels as identical in color? If not, then obviously there's more to human perception than just the color of the pixel code.
That is witchcraft.
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I found this image to be a really good way to distill the issue down into the two different modes or perception:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress#/media/File:Wikipe-tan_wearing_The_Dress_reduced.svg
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Don't forget Laurel and Yani!
I hate that one because I hear both of them at the same time Dx feels like pure insanity.
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No, what happened is that a bunch of people were shown to be objectively wrong about what color it was, and couldn't let it go.
That's a boring description because there's no curiosity why they were wrong
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Congratulations, you remembered.
its fokin cul
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This is exactly the thing.
Whatever the dress may be in reality, the photo of it that was circulated was either exposed or twiddled with such that the pixels it's made of are indeed slightly bluish grey trending towards white (i.e. above 50% grey) and tanish browny gold.
That is absolutely not up for debate. Those are the color values of those pixels, end of discussion.
Edit to add: This entire debacle is a fascinating case of people either failing to or refusing to separate the concept of a physical object versus its very inaccurate representation. The photograph of the object is not the object: ce n'est pas une robe.
The people going around in this thread and elsewhere putting people down and calling them "stupid" or whatever else only because they know that the physical dress itself is black and blue based on external information are studiously ignoring the fact that this is not what the photograph of it shows. That's because the photograph is extremely cooked and is not an accurate depiction. The debate only exists at all if one party or the other does not have the complete set of information, and at this point in history now that this stupid meme has been driven into the ground quite thoroughly I should hope that all of us do.
It's true that our brains can and will interpret false color data based on either context or surrounding contrast, and it's possible that somebody deliberately messed with the original image to amplify this effect in the first place. But the fact remains that arguing about what the dress is versus how it's been inaccurately depicted is stupid, and anyone still trying that at this late stage is probably doing so in bad faith.
They're not stupid, their visual cortex just lacks the ability to calibrate to context. You can see in the picture that the scene is very brightly lit. If your visual cortex is in working order, you'll adjust your perception of the colours. The picture reveals that some people struggle to do that.
