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  • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

    am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

    The objective fact is…it is a blue and black dress. Other photos of the same dress show that.

    But I cannot, for the life of me, see how anyone can possibly get that from this photo. Sample the RGB values all you want and it clearly is not black in this photo. The exposure and white balance have messed around with it so much it is incomprehensible to me how anyone can see it as blue and black.

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    Optical illusion innit

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    • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

      Not even the brighter version looks white and gold to me. It's so obviously blue and black, y'all are insane.

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      Zoom in or sample the colours. They’re not blue and black.

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      • T [email protected]

        Don't forget Laurel and Yani!

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        I hear both simultaneously at different frequency. Yanny is way higher.

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        • darkassassin07@lemmy.caD [email protected]

          It appears white/gold to me on it's own, I've never been able to see anything different.

          Grabbing this specific image and sampling the colours though; they appear more of a grey/brown colour. I can sorta maybe understand blue, but definitely not black.

          This is just using Polish photo editor on android:

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          Next up: the dress worn by the woman on the right.

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          • F [email protected]

            This is why "eye witness testimony" can never be trusted. People with fucked up physiology just tumbling through life and not even realizing that their color wheel is off by magnitudes, and that cilantro is delicious.

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            haha gottem

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            • R [email protected]

              You mean which color camera perceived when the photo was taken?

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              I mean what do you see when you look at the picture? Genuinely curious 😊

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              • F [email protected]

                I regularly colour-match clothes as part of my retouching work. My eyes are fine otherwise I wouldn't be trusted with critical color work.

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                Idk there is no universe in which this is anything but blue and black.

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                • E [email protected]

                  When you look at the checker shadow illusion, do you see the pixels as identical in color? If not, then obviously there's more to human perception than just the color of the pixel code.

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                  Depends on whether I zoom in so the color fills the screen or not. This doesn't change the color values that appear on the screen.

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                    Why are people downvoting someone for admitting they made a mistake? It takes some courage to do that.

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                    Probably because they qualified it by making an excuse for themself instead of just owning the error without 'strings attached'.

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                      Because no one has posted the other photos:

                      And this is a photo of the same dress taken under proper lighting:

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                      I have always only seen black and blue, even in the light version my brain doesn't make it gold and white. It's strange to me why people perceive this as gold.

                      Edit this video was the only one to make me see it https://youtu.be/YB36n00NHBw

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                      • R [email protected]

                        Colors do not just magically flip, not outside of gradient variances and medical conditions. This is absurd bs just like this whole "viral" debate where people were arguing over how camera captured the stupid dress. The camera captured it in that stupid way to look entirely different, not my eyes. Even color picker in image editor proves that on the photo of the dress, the gold is gold and the white is so far washed out blue that can easily be declared white. Are you going to claim mathematical tool has wrong perception of color too?

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                        The camera captured it in that stupid way to look entirely different, not my eyes.

                        It is clearly blue and black on this photo.

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                          Never understood this one, or believed anyone who said they saw black/blue. You can zoom in and colour pick, the colours are measurable and objectively gold and blue-white.

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                          I'm the exact opposite. When somebody first showed me the picture, I thought "is this some kind of trick question? It's obviously black and blue". And still to this day, after many arguments with (friends and family) as what I can only perceive as stubborn defensiveness, I can still only ever perceive it as black and blue.

                          I literally cannot override my color perception to trick myself into seeing white and gold and it feels like a mistake a lot of people made (to see white and gold) and then just stuck with and argued for ("it's an optical illusion!" or "look at the pixels!").

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                            Brain defect.

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                            Aren't we all just one big brain defect?

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                              Left: blue and black.
                              Middle: light blue and black.
                              Right: dark blue and black.

                              The dress is blue and black. It will never be white or gold. The lighting or saturation doesn't matter.

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                              Well the pixels themselves are white and gold so…

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                                You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

                                Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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                                Color is created in the brain, not in the pixel values.
                                Pixel values often have no correlation to the color that's produced in the brain.

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                                  I still think the white and gold people are trolling.

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                                  Same. But now after all these years, there are enough people in here that are pedants/trolls and flatly saying they can only see white and gold.

                                  It makes me question my own abilities. Sure, I see the dress for what it actually is, but am I lacking the ability to trick my brain into seeing an illusion? Is that a lack of something like imagination? Am I broken?

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                                    Ah, so white and gold folks are, indeed, mistaken.

                                    Thanks!

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                                    Incorrect. It is impossible to deduce the "real" color from the photo, both sets are true.

                                    The photo is simply bistable.

                                    You can argue that "the real dress bla bla bla", but nobody's looking at the real dress and everyone's looking at the photo.

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                                      The "white" pixels are literally blue. The "black" ones can be considered gold due to the lighting.

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                                      Yes a very light blue, nobody is seeing brilliant white. But on a colour slider it’s much closer to white than the ‘true’ dark blue of the dress. If you sample the sleeve or whatever that is hanging over it’ll be even closer to pure white.

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                                      • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

                                        As in using the colour picker on the image and finding the corresponding code? That's actually an explanation that I can get behind. Classic example of trust your instrument.

                                        I see the dress as gold and white, no matter ehow hard I try to see the other side of the coin.

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                                        Nope. Color cannot be measured, it is created in the brain. Pickers show pixel values (stimulus) and often don't correlate to the experienced color.

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                                          They're not stupid, their visual cortex just lacks the ability to calibrate to context. You can see in the picture that the scene is very brightly lit. If your visual cortex is in working order, you'll adjust your perception of the colours. The picture reveals that some people struggle to do that.

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                                          fMRI studies show that white-and-gold perceivers exhibit more activity in frontal and parietal brain regions, suggesting that their interpretation involves more top-down processing. This means they are more, not less, engaged in contextual interpretation.

                                          Some differences may relate to physiological traits like macular pigment density, which affects how much blue light is absorbed before reaching the retina. People with higher density tend to see white and gold

                                          Color perception is not only about the visual cortex’s function but about the image’s properties and the brain’s inferential processes. You’d know this if you weren’t a dumb blue-n-black’er

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