Trump, Netanyahu and Khamenei – three angry old men who could get us all killed
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Would you take the same view if Iranian rockets started killing Zionist politicians in Europe?
And it doesn't hit regular people to a significant degree? That'd be great actually. Could they potentially hit some oligarchs and far-right morons as well?
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You mean unlike the islamic dictatorship that was founded with an objective to destroy Israel?
Oh no, another "we are the victim" comment
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Don't know if Starmer's been directly terrible enough yet that I have such a negative view on him to directly smile, but I won't shed a tear for any warmongerer.
He's actively supported the genocide in Gaza, for one thing
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And it doesn't hit regular people to a significant degree? That'd be great actually. Could they potentially hit some oligarchs and far-right morons as well?
And it doesn’t hit regular people to a significant degree?
Yeah, not a significant degree, just a few families.
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He's actively supported the genocide in Gaza, for one thing
Then why would I be sad if he was hit?
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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.
This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.
Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?
Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.
Great man theory nonsense. Was Netanyahu in power during the Sabra and Shatila massacre? During the Nakba? During the June 1967 war? Was Trump president when the US invaded Iraq? Was he president when the US sent billions of dollars in military aid to Israel to commit their genocide with? It's the countries, not the leaders. They're just the personification of a system. You could shoot each of these men in the head today, and nothing would change.
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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.
This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.
Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?
Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]What an insanely stupid article. Israel bombs Iran completely unprovoked. Khamenei and Iran are incredibly responsible and measured in their response. Meanwhile Israel is flailing around like a wild bully with their American big brother behind its back, threatening Iran that they are not allowed to strike back
And the liberals from TheGuardian write a both sides article about it as if all parties share blame.
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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.
This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.
Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?
Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]you know it's bad when western MSM is both-siding it
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Oh no, another "we are the victim" comment
I'm definitely not a victim. But pretending that Iran is somehow morally superior to Israel is fucking laughable.
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Please put an age restriction on politicians, it would solev sooo much nonsense.
While I partially agree on this, let's consider some cases:
- Hitler's reign 1933-1945, his age: 44-56
- Stalin 1922-1952, age 44-74
- Putin 2000-?, age 48-?
- Pol Pot 1963-1981, age 38-56
- Louis XIV 1643-1715, age 5-77 or 16-77 if you count coronation as the start (sacre bleu jesus fuck)
- Xi Jinping 2012-?, age 59-?
Youth is clearly not enough. Age limit + term limit might be a useful combination, but it all falls down when you allow somebody to just grab all power anyway and reset all the rules and limits, like Putin and Xi Jinping have done.
Yes agreed
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Putin is by far the worst one.
Only if you believe that white lives are far more valuable than non-white lives
Which non-white lives? The ones in Ukraine?
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How is Putin worse than Netanyahu? Just compare the children death toll in Palestine vs. Ukraine.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]putin just kidnaps children and converts them to be Russian to fight in his wars.
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Which non-white lives? The ones in Ukraine?
The ones in Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, and Iran. That should have been obvious, but you forgot that those non-Ukrainian people even existed.
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putin just kidnaps children and converts them to be Russian to fight in his wars.
Which, while bad, is still vastly superior to just straight up exterminating them.
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But we can assume that Putin had something to do with Hamas launching the strike just by the fact how much it helped him.
This is like a parody of what a BlueAnon liberal would say, my god
With all the awful manipulation putin and the Russian state have done in the world play, I would be surprised if they didn't have a hand in Hamas.
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You're biased, based on your handle. You think Gaza is important.
I'm also biased, because I live next to Russia. I think defending against Russia in the current situation is much more important than anything that could happen in Gaza. And if you want to take the historical perspective, Russia has violated my country and the people of my country several times during the last 300 years at least, and probably more. Middle East obviously has the potential to beat us on the historical record, given how the whole of human civilization practically rose in that area, but still. It's not like this is happening for the first time over here either.
It's not that I don't care about their tragedies, it's just that it's nowhere near a top priority right now. If Russia stops being a crazy asshole, things farther away from my country's borders may become more important to me. Still, note that if what I'm suggesting is true, Putin and Russia are partially to blame about what's happening In Gaza. With a handle like yours, you probably cared about Gaza already before Putin's manipulations, but half of the eyes of the lefties in west were looking at Ukraine. They are not looking at Ukraine anymore, like they should be doing.
Truth to be told, geopolitically speaking it seems much more sane to be on Israel's side because they're against Iran, who's on Russia's side. And Palestine seems to be kinda on Russia's side as well so remind me again why I should support them at all?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You’re biased, based on your handle. You think Gaza is important.
Well at least liberals are being open in their belief that only white people matter...
But you're literally a Gaza genocide supporter, so maybe you're more of a fascist than a liberal.
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With all the awful manipulation putin and the Russian state have done in the world play, I would be surprised if they didn't have a hand in Hamas.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yup, that is indeed a Qanon tier conspiracy theory. Liberals literally just reinventing the Judeo–Bolshevik conspiracy theory to blame Russia for those dirty browns fighting back against being genocided.
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Then why would I be sad if he was hit?
You shouldn't, I'm just not used to people being consistent about this kind of thing.
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What an insanely stupid article. Israel bombs Iran completely unprovoked. Khamenei and Iran are incredibly responsible and measured in their response. Meanwhile Israel is flailing around like a wild bully with their American big brother behind its back, threatening Iran that they are not allowed to strike back
And the liberals from TheGuardian write a both sides article about it as if all parties share blame.
The Ayatollah regime that has been building and funding terrorist proxies for years, that has a bloody countdown timer for the destruction of Israel in the middle it Tehran?
The same regime who is, pretty obviously, rushing toward military nuclear capabilities in order to fulfill said countdown?
You're saying that they haven't provoked Israel?And you really think that firing drones and ballistic missiles at civilian populations is a measured response?
Fuck off with that bullshit.
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putin just kidnaps children and converts them to be Russian to fight in his wars.
Good thing Israel never kidnapped children.
